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its not easy.... :(

could it maybe be Grating?
grating as in raucous, strident, cacophonous and
Grating as in the item?

and:
just a wee something to get us started again while we contemplate Vision's tricksy clue

down under birds (4)
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Vision, another thought:

Jarring

Jar and Ring are items?

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That last one sounds convincing to me, TIGG! :clap:
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Down under birds ....

Are emus down under? And I presume down under means not in the right order if its cryptic, so ... muse, perhaps?

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Kiwi? There's Kiwi birds as well as fruit right?
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Yes! New Zealanders are called 'kiwis' after the bird. Kiwi used to be a brand of shoe polish here in the US ... might still be.

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Jny :bow: (I found it in a crossword and it took me nearly an hour to solve becasue I was thinking 'down' as in feathers.)

and of course Kiwi would have been equally correct as the plural of the 'Kiwi' bird is still Kiwi.
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:pray:

Was the answer emus or muse? I wasn't sure if it was cryptic or not.

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emus
and yes as to all the above, Kiwi bootpolish, kiwifruit, nz ers called Kiwis after the bird.

but the emu is in Australia not New Zealand. :D we had the Moa
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And now there are no moa.

(sorry, terrible pun. extinction is not funny)

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:rofl: Excellent pun.

I think I must reveal the answer. I suspect my clue stinks.
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vison wrote::rofl: Excellent pun.

I think I must reveal the answer. I suspect my clue stinks.
HA!!!

suspect teh clue is TOO CLEVER for me.

but it has stayed in my tiggerty brain as a 'poser', and I don't do anagrams or puns so I was rather lost.
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Can you give us another hint, vison, without actually telling the answer?

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Jnyusa wrote:Down under birds ....

Are emus down under? And I presume down under means not in the right order if its cryptic, so ... muse, perhaps?

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Down Under is an idiom for Australia, as in the Men at Work song 'I come from a land down under'.
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yes... another hint Vision... another hint :D

because we would hate to admit defeat.
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Avatar wrote:Down Under is an idiom for Australia
:D

I thought it might have a double-meaning in this case.

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I just did.
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Cacophenous items?

and a pun.

I suspect my clue stinks

IS THE second CLUE?


:scratch:

I shall have to give this one serious thought.
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So, something that "sounds like shit"? But what sort of item could that be? :scratch:
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Bellows?

(oh wait, that's not plural. Oh well, never mind.)
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