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With the trial of Carroll's second lawsuit against Trump, alleging that Trump raped her in 1995 or 1996 (a new NY law opened a window for sexual assault victims to file suit on claims that otherwise would have been covered by the statute of limitations) and defamation after Trump left office starting this week,* I thought it should have it's own thread. With the the discussion that we have been having about civil litigation regarding the Dominion lawsuit against Fox, I thought this would be a good starting point, as this is a very different type of lawsuit with a different purpose.







* It is unclear when or if there will be a trial on the original lawsuit that she filed alleging defamation while Trump was in office, though a recent Court of Appeals ruling would allow it to move forward.
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Any guesses as to which one is there, and which one is not?
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Very rarely has a client and lawyer been so well matched.

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Impressed by how fast this one is moving. Jury selected and opening statements all done in the first day.

I can well believe that E. Jean Carroll could have been sexually assaulted and yet not remember the day or date. One of my most traumatic experiences was being with my mother in 2011 when a blood vessel in her lung burst and she coughed up a couple pints of blood as I called 911. It was like a horror movie and I'll never forget it, but even though it was only 12 years ago, about half as far back as Donald Trump's allaged attack on Caroll was when she told the story publicly, I couldn't tell you the day or date that it happened, other than it was in June.
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SMH.

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This is a case that Trump should not lose, but between him and Tacopina, I think there is a good chance that he will.
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Meanwhile, Carroll herself is now on the stand. Her first words:

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I'm going to put this one behind spoiler tags, because it is graphic description of Trump doing exactly what he bragged about doing in the Access Hollywood tape.
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:51 pm

Adam Klasfeld
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Judge Kaplan says Trump's comments are "entirely inappropriate."

Tacopina says he'll "try to address that with my client."
As Christopher Deloge said in the Twitter comments,
Tacopina will need an Asgardian strength muzzle for that to work
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Or the judge could just issue a gag order...

But of course, this is the ex-president, so everyone is pussy-footing around!

Edit: yeah, Voronwë, that crossed my mind, too! Maybe they should play those tapes as evidence of Trump's mindset.
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Sunny, they will be playing the Access Hollywood tape for the jury as part of the case.
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Oh, good to know! It's certainly relevant.
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Before the trial started, Tacopina made a motion to bring in evidence that Carroll lied about how the case was being funded.

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:49 pm SMH.
Holy *&^@ at his use of an ellipsis in the second post.

Also he writes that she was "a then almost 60 year old woman," but she actually would have been 53 or 54 (he would have been 49-50).

She's had to make some very intimate statements about her life -- not just about the alleged attack -- in her direct testimony today.
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An hour ago, Donald Trump's son Eric posted about on Truth Social about the trial and specifically about who is paying Carroll's legal fees. Then he shared a screenshot of his post on Twitter as well. Donald Trump's attorney says that Eric Trump posted before the judge ruled on this issue.
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