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40 months in prison for Roger Stone, which is about what I expected the judge to do.

It's been six minutes already, and Trump still hasn't tweeted about it!
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Maybe he's having a nap or something.
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These are some pretty extraordinary statements made by quite a conservative judge, who was nominated to his position by George W. Bush.

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Why would this be coming up now almost 2 years later?
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Uh... 1 year.
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It's coming up now because of a FOIA law suit seeking release of the unredacted -- or at least less redacted -- version of the report. Lawsuits take time.

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elengil wrote:Uh... 1 year.
That's what I thought but the article said "when the report was finally released in May of 2018" so....?
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yovargas wrote:
elengil wrote:Uh... 1 year.
That's what I thought but the article said "when the report was finally released in May of 2018" so....?
LOL that's a neat trick, since the report itself is dated March 2019 :rofl:
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/04/ ... chable.pdf
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Appeals court rules DOJ must give sealed Mueller materials to Congress

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... terials-to

Waiting for this to go to the Supreme Court.
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Barr strikes again. The Justice Department no longer exists as functioning entity separate from the White House.

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It's nice to have (corrupt) friends in high places....
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Speaking of corruption or just plain 'laws are for regular folk': https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... story.html
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Judge Emmet Sullivan, the fiery judge overseeing the Flynn case, is not just granting the request to dismiss the case. Instead, he has appointed a retired judge as a "friend of the court" to "present arguments in opposition to the government’s Motion to Dismiss," and (stunningly) to "address whether the Court should issue an Order to Show Cause why Mr. Flynn should not be held in criminal contempt for perjury."

I bet Mr. Trump and Mr. Barr aren't very happy with Judge Sullivan.

Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure this was not the answer these Fox hosts were expecting to get from their guest, attorney Bradley Moss.

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Competence? Like, if you have no idea how a job is supposed to be done, maybe it looks weird when you see it done right?

Meanwhile, despite howls and screams about Deep States and spying and so on, Congress has once again utterly failed to reform FISA. Makes me wonder if the issue people claim to have with FISA isn't that FISA exists, it's that it got applied to shady people in the orbit of powerful people and that makes powerful people nervous.
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AHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! :rotfl: "Well, we're going to have to leave it there.." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

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River wrote: Makes me wonder if the issue people claim to have with FISA isn't that FISA exists, it's that it got applied to shady people in the orbit of powerful people and that makes powerful people nervous.

^^^ Yes, it's - we want it around for when *we* want to use it against others, but let's not go letting others use it against us.
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Trump has commuted Stone's sentence before he reports to prison.
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Barr has replaced the US Attorney of the EDNY.
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Wonder why he got so keen on shuffling the DAs in SDNY and EDNY around. In the case of SDNY, his interest was so intense he couldn't even be arsed with official and legal channels.
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River wrote:Wonder why he got so keen on shuffling the DAs in SDNY and EDNY around. In the case of SDNY, his interest was so intense he couldn't even be arsed with official and legal channels.
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