All things concerning Azog and Bolg

Post by **Smaug's voice** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:07 pm

Perhaps the most controversial thing about AUJ?

Right now, I am thinking about how they will develop Azog's arc.
I think PJ is trying to correlate Dol Guldur with him. I don't know all the facts and details coming from such interviews. But are there any positive guesses or confirmations on that link? How will that play out?

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:41 pm

I really wish his arc didn't exist at all.

But contrary to many, I love his design.

Post by **Dave_LF** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:23 am

I am not brave enough to post this as its own thread, but please note the title of this post. The old TORC crowd will understand the reference. Here's what you need to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcMkf2iq1Ac&t=5m27s

Yes, this is just a dumb gag (the rest of the video has a couple funny moments, though a lot of it is juvenile). But it works awfully well, doesn't it? And of course, it isn't the first time. I think The Onion was on to something; they just had the wrong species!

Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:42 am

Oh wow! I wish Gandalf's Mother, the author of the classic TORC thread "Aragorn and Lurtz: A Sexual encounter" (I would link to it, but those old TORC threads are now a formatting mess), could see that!

Post by **Dave_LF** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:45 am

That thread began in the summer of 2002. That was more than a decade ago. I can hardly believe that.

Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:49 am

Incomprehensible.

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:26 am

Haha. I remember that thread! What a disturbing, hilarious and "deeply" insightful post.

Gandalf'sMother was certainly a...um... unique individual!

ETA: Here's the thread, formatting mess and all: http://forums.theonering.com/viewtopic.php?t=53975

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:01 am

I also appreciated the laser giants, laser eagles and laser Thranduil.

And for some reason, I found the "Gandarf" bit to be funny...It's not funny, but it is...

Post by **yovargas** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:05 am

Jackson and lazors. Yes.

Post by **Smaug's voice** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:22 pm

Totally loved Bolg! And even more so because he thrashed Legolas!

I am a bit worried though. Seeing the last we see of Legolas is him chasing Bolg on a horse, I strongly suspect Legolas and Bolg to become arch-enemies or something like that. Just hope he isn't the one to kill Bolg. Eeeep!

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:24 pm

I liked Bolg as well, though I actually wish they'd stuck with Azog for those scenes. He's still my favorite!

Post by **Smaug's voice** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:30 pm

Admittedly, Azog looks better in this one. Though the designed/patterned scars are still awfully distracting.

Post by **Elentári** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:53 pm

Smaug's voice wrote:Totally loved Bolg! And even more so because he thrashed Legolas!

I am a bit worried though. Seeing the last we see of Legolas is him chasing Bolg on a horse, I strongly suspect Legolas and Bolg to become arch-enemies or something like that. Just hope he isn't the one to kill Bolg. Eeeep!

OMG...you just reminded me - wasn't there a reference to Legolas fighting a "serious" Orc at some point in the last 6 months? Was it during Jackson's live blog on the last day of shooting, or maybe just prior to that?

Odds on now that it'll be Bolg!

Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:32 pm

Was the reference specifically to the BoFA? Because if not, it might have been a reference to what we have already seen, no?

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:14 pm

I'm quite sure that was a reference to Legolas-Bolg in Laketown.

Though I am going to hazard a guess that Legolas or Tauriel gets to kill Bolg in the BOFA, while Thorin faces off against Azog.

Bolg was, essentially, brought into the story in order to create an antagonist for the main elves.

Azog will continue his quest for vengeance against the line of Durin in TABA.

Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:18 pm

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Bolg is going to be killed by Beorn, just as in the book. Clearly, from Jackson's comments Beorn is going to have a role in the next film. What else could it be?

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:23 pm

Voronwë the Faithful wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Bolg is going to be killed by Beorn, just as in the book. Clearly, from Jackson's comments Beorn is going to have a role in the next film. What else could it be?

I disagree. I think Beorn's role will simply be to turn the tide in general. He'll kill lots and lots of orcs, and perhaps some lieutenants that are highlighted in TABA, but I believe Bolg belongs to Legolas and/or Tauriel. Legolas didn't hop on that convenient white horse for nothing!

I could be wrong, but that rarely happens. Except about DOS...

Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:45 pm

I certainly agree that he seems to be setting up Bolg as the antagonist of the Elves. But who knows what will actually happen in TaBA? I certainly don't.

Maybe Azog will be killed by Saruman at the Battle of Dol Guldur. I think anything is pssible.

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:54 pm

That's a valid point. After the insanity of DOS, we should probably assume that we all have no idea how TABA will turn out.

Post by **Elentári** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:55 pm

No, I remember now...it was Orlando's last scene, I believe, which was linked to the Bo5A.

http://pagetopremiere.com/2013/06/orlan ... -isengard/

“A day after saying goodbye to Gandalf and Tauriel, it was time to farewell Legolas. What a great day it was, with Orlando battling a serious Orc for all 12 hours of shooting – part of the Battle of the 5 Armies for the third Hobbit movie."

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All things concerning Azog and Bolg

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