Hobbit cast!
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One interesting side note is that she used to be (for all I know still is) romantically linked to Dominic Monaghan (Merry).
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Nope. Nor any news of a potential Prim (other than the rumor years ago).Lalaith wrote:I've updated the thread. No news on a replacement for Drogo Baggins yet?
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The interesting thing about the casting of Evangeline Lilly if in fact Tauriel is the same character as Itaril, and Saoirse Ronan really was considered for the part, is that Ms. Lilly is almost twice as old as Ms. Ronan! Ms. Ronan was born on Apri 12, 1994, making her 17. And Ms. Lilly was born on August 3, 1979, making her almost 32. That's quite a gap to bridge!
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That is an interesting comment. Does it mean the films will indeed portray Thranduil and Legolas as being different from the elves they rule?Voronwë the Steadfast wrote:And also that he says that she is the "first true Sylvan Elf" they have brought to life. That argues against the idea that she is Thranduil's daughter (which her name suggested to me).
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It certainly implies it, doesn't it?Dave_LF wrote:That is an interesting comment. Does it mean the films will indeed portray Thranduil and Legolas as being different from the elves they rule?Voronwë the Steadfast wrote:And also that he says that she is the "first true Sylvan Elf" they have brought to life. That argues against the idea that she is Thranduil's daughter (which her name suggested to me).
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Here's the original casting call for Itaril.
I'm assuming the same holds true for Tauriel, and that its the same character, just renamed.ITARIL – female, A woodland Elf, this character is one the Silvan Elves. The Silvan Elves are seen as more earthy and practical. Shorter than other elves, she is still quick and lithe and physically adept, being able to fight with both sword and bow. Showing promise as a fighter at a young age, ITARIL was chosen to train to become part of the Woodland King’s Guard. This is the only life she has ever expected to live, until she meets and secretly falls in love with a young ELF LORD. This role will require a wig and contact lenses to be worn. Some prosthetic make-up may also be required. LEAD. AGE: 17-27.
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Lali, Thranduil was a Sindarin Elf, of the Telerin people of Doriath (whether he was actually born in Doriath is an open question). In one account, his father Oropher became the king of a realm of Silvan Elves in Greenwood the Great, which later became Mirkwood. Thranduil became king when his father was killed in the Last Alliance. The Silvan Elves were also Telerin Elves, but they early on abandoned the Great Journey, whereas the Sindarin Elves were the ones that ended up staying in Beleriand when Thingol went missing.Lalaith wrote:Okay, refresh my memory. How are Thranduil (and, therefore, Legolas) different? It's been a long time since I've researched this.
In the "History of Galadriel and Celeborn" section of Unfinished Tales there is an appendix called "The Sindarin Princes of the Silvan Elves" that talks about how it came to be that the mostly Silvan realms of Mirkwood and Lórien came to be ruled by Sindarin people.
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Well, good for PJ et al. that they seem to be getting it right.
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Well, I'm not proposing that they'll be right at the level of detail you understand. . . .
Just that it doesn't look wrong at this point to someone like me.
Just that it doesn't look wrong at this point to someone like me.
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I understand. It'll be interesting to see what they do. I really question whether they will be able to go into much detail about these subtlies. It seems like it would be too confusing to non-book-readers, and that it would take too much time to explain. But with two films, they do have a lot of time, so we'll see. Still given the fact that they didn't even try to explain that Elrond and Arwen were half-Elven ... .
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I wonder about that too, but since The Hobbit's time-to-material ratio is practically going to be the inverse of LotR's, maybe a lot more of that sort of thing will find its way in. If they retain the bit about her falling in love with a Rivendell elf, the racial difference could become a plot point.
A succinct and fascinating observation Dave.Dave_LF wrote:The Hobbit's time-to-material ratio is practically going to be the inverse of LotR's,
Unfinished Tales keeps being mentioned in relation to this latest casting announcement. I wonder if PJ managed to get permission to use it after all? That would certainly help lower the ratio. And I'd wager be more pleasing to fans than utterly made-up material would be.