Maria, I think that might even make it more helpful to understand the nuances, that the judge's eyesight, and hence capacity for judgement, is ruined by the mess the beam makes to their own eye. Jesus is proposing that those who judge are afflicted, and have neither the capacity nor capability to make sound judgement. It was for these very revolutionary preachings that Jesus became such a threat to the establishment (if the myth is to be believed).Maria wrote:Plank, beam or log... any one of them is going to make a grizzly mess of an eye socket and everything attached to it if insertion is attempted. The imagery is alarming enough to distract me from the meaning of the metaphor every time I see it.
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Ah, well, then you would've appreciated the recent skit I was part of but not privy to the prop-making beforehand. Therefore, when the lady with the "plank" in her eye came out I was quite proud of myself that I did not burst into hysterical laughter.yovargas wrote:The mental image of people walking around with planks in their eye did always make me chuckle.
She fashioned her own "plank" out of a long, round tube of styrofoam. She covered it with light brown duct tape (rather than dark brown). She attached it to an old pair of glasses.
It looked, for all the world, like a giant penis sticking out of her eye.
And log, beam, or plank, I don't think "penis" was ever in the running for a possible translation of the word.
<--Um, not going there.
ETA: Oh wait! I found a picture!
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I think the log/plank metaphor was purposely something that could NOT fit in one's eye.. inviting greater introspection on one's own failings (rather than the faults/failings of others.) If, for example.. a splinter and a twig comparison would have been used.. I think people would find it too easy to quibble about the POINT of the parable in the first place.
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ROFL Lali!
Well, my two cents in a nutshell:
Having faith in a deity = not nuts.
Blindly believing just anything and everything you're told in the name of a deity = nuts.
Well, my two cents in a nutshell:
Having faith in a deity = not nuts.
Blindly believing just anything and everything you're told in the name of a deity = nuts.
See the world as your self.
Have faith in the way things are.
Love the world as your self;
then you can care for all things.
~ Lao Tzu
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“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
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