The Desolation of Smaug anticipation thread [SPOILERS]

Post by **yovargas** » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:10 am

halplm wrote: The wheels didn't fall off of LOTR until TTT...

TTT was my favorite of the LOTR films by a good margin so hush.

Post by **kzer_za** » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:37 pm

PJ says the barrel escape is "relatively early." Does this mean we'll be through Beorn, Mirkwood, and Thranduil/Legolas Tauriel pretty quickly? Well, I guess in movies this long, "relatively early" could be more than an hour in.

Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:45 pm

Where does he say that?

Post by **Elentári** » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:49 pm

PJ says it right at the beginning of the interview, in answer to the first question!

Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:21 pm

Which interview? Oh, you mean the interview that, let's see, who posted? Oh yeah, I posted.

Post by **Elentári** » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:28 pm

Nevermind, V... Here's a spoiler picture of the Master of Laketown for you!

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/laketown

Post by **Dave_LF** » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:21 am

Mirkwood is an excellent match for the long slog in the second half of a movie. Not sure how well it will work at the start of one.

Post by **halplm** » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:20 am

Well, if you're going to get to the end of the Smaug story by the end of the second film, they can't spend much time in Mirkwood...

Post by **Elentári** » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:08 am

As it happens, I was listening to the BBC Radio dramatixation of the Hobbit on a long drive yesterday, and the completely gloseed over the first part of Mirkwood, I don't think there was even mention of the hart, and the narrator just described the crossing of the enchanted river and Bombur's subsequent enchanted sleep. They only went back to dramatizing the events at the point the Elves' fires start to appear.

I can't see PJ being able to gloss over that much, and indeed, we've seen stills of Thorin shooting the hart, and of Bombur being carried...

Post by **ArathornJax** » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:11 am

Lets see, in Desolation I would like the following:

1. For Bilbo to emerge as a leader of the troop as he does in the book; the spider attack of course and the rescue.

2. Corny but I want to see the Elves get drunk and pass out in barrels out of bond.

3. Meeting Bard, the handling of the singing of the Return of the King under the Mountain and the trip to the mountain with lots of foreboding.

4. The finding of the secret door on Durin's Day

5. The opening of the door, the travel down the passage way and the meeting with Smaug. Will Bilbo steal Thror's cup first?

Post by **Elentári** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:40 pm

ETA: edited to say potential "SPOILERS!!!" in the DG part of the storyline (which are somewhat disconcerting to me, anyway!)

10 Things You'll See In The Hobbit 2 And 3

EMPIRE Online takes a humorous look at "What to expect when you're on an unexpected journey..."

Post by **Dave_LF** » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:55 pm

It sounds like they are just combining things that have been reported elsewhere, as opposed to having any inside information of their own. The Gandalf/Dol Guldur thing was the only one I hadn't heard before, and we still don't know the Beorn one isn't just mistranslation.

Post by **Elentári** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:44 pm

Even so, poor old Celeborn is once again getting short shrift at the expense of "Girl Power..." One would have thought he would be included in any attack on DG, at least in support of his wife, but there's never been any indication that Marton Czokas would be returning.

BTW, EMPIRE rather have egg on their face with this statement:

"Just as Azog didn’t appear in Tolkien’s book, Bolg is a new character..."

Unless, of course, they are referring to Conan Steven's character of the torturer of DG, which is named BOLG but is made up, but still...

Post by **kzer_za** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:49 pm

If there's one thing I agree with Shelob's Appetite on, it's that Bolg's design is hideously bad.

Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:58 pm

Whereas I like Bolg's design much better than Azog's. Azog just looks fake, where as Bolg is quite terrifying (in an outrageous way).

Post by **Dave_LF** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:56 pm

Galadriel doesn't seem particularly shaken when she learns about Gandalf's death in FotR. That may seem incongruent given everything that apparently happens between them here.

Post by **JewelSong** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:13 am

Dave_LF wrote:Galadriel doesn't seem particularly shaken when she learns about Gandalf's death in FotR.

Oh, I disagree. When she says, "He has fallen into the shadow" I think she seems totally shocked and grieved. Did you expect her to burst into tears?

Post by **Dave_LF** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:27 am

Well; she could have "cried aloud in grief and amazement," instead of launching into a speech about how everyone is safe now and can go rest.

Post by **Impenitent** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:12 am

Voronwë the Faithful wrote:
Frelga wrote:"We guys" got three hours (times however many viewings) of fun out of the first film.
Not to mention a couple of scenes that are among the best ever filmed evah.

In my humble opinion.

Specify the scenes?

(Me, I was thrilled with every second of celluloid in Bag End).

Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:38 am

I was particularly referring to the singing of 'Far Over the Misty Mountains Cold' and Bilbo's reaction to it, as well as his regret and loneliness the following morning, and the Riddles scene, and particularly Bilbo's moment of Pity. Also, on a different level, the 'Good Morning' interaction between Gandalf and Bilbo, which I have loved for so long, and was so brilliantly pulled off.