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Aragorn but later.
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Aragorn to Gimli and Legolas when chasing the orcs?
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Aragorn, but earlier.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.

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Prior to Moria?
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.

"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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After Moria.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.

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Lothlórien?

Or on the way to Lothlórien from Moria?
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Yes. More the second than the first, I guess.
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Well? You are so close!
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Is it right in the beginning of Chapter 6, Lothlórien?

Several sentences have the right meaning, but different words and they don't seem quite right.
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This must be it:
'Your words bring good counsel, Gimli,' said Aragorn. `We cannot build a house, but tonight we will do as the Galadhrim and seek refuge in the tree-tops, if we can. We have sat here beside the road already longer than was wise.'
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That's the one.
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This one ended up as "I don't have words". But an earlier and closer version was:
There will never be too many words for me.
Different meaning from the original, but more key words were retained.
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Is it Gimli saying to Legolas, "Men need many words before deeds"?
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Good guess, but no.

Here's a hint: change "too many" to "too long" and you have one more keyword from the original.
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Treebeard: "Never is too long a word for me"?
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Wow - I'm seriously impressed.

That's the one.
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That line has always stood out for me.

Here's a new one:
But in two ways, the man may come a wicked shake. He may be an evil worker. Or bring help when you need it, just as the leaves are alone.
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That *is* a wonderful line. I will now remember it.

Tolkien really did drop absolute gems from time to time.
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So true.

So the "leaves" in that quote - is it actually leaves as in leaving something alone, or actual leaves from a tree?
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Is that Gandalf when called Stormcrow in Rohan?

Yet in two ways may a man come with evil tidings. He may be a worker of evil; or he may be such as leaves well alone, and comes only to bring aid in time of need
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