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Jude has it! Somehow "queer" became "confirm" and completely changed the meaning.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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I don't think I ever would have gotten that without the discussion of the enigmatic word.

Here's our new quote:
If you want to introduce him to our Senior Researcher, I can create him.
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Jude wrote:
If you want to introduce him to our Senior Researcher, I can create him.
Archchancellor Ridcully? :D

(that just sounds so Pratchettesque)
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Well, since Gollum made a cameo in Witches Abroad, there's no reason why Ridcully couldn't make one in Lord of the Rings.

(that's a hint, by the way - it's from The Lord of the Rings)
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I'm guessing the second half is "I can produce him" rather than "I can create him"
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"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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That's right, and it sounds like you have the quote...
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Uh, no, I really was just trying to guess what could have been translated as 'create' here.
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"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Is that from the Scouring?
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No, before.
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Sounds like a Gandalf quote?
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"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Not spoken by Gandalf
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It’s at Crickhollow and it’s either Merry or Pippin (I’m thinking Merry) revealing that they know about the ring, and their chief investigator was Sam
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You're correct and now you need to give me the exact quote and speaker :poke:
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Alatar wrote:It’s at Crickhollow and it’s either Merry or Pippin (I’m thinking Merry) revealing that they know about the ring, and their chief investigator was Sam
:doh: Oh yes of course!!
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It was, as I suspected, Merry:

But if you want to be introduced to our chief investigator, I can produce him.
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New quote

No one is here. You get lost People don't go there
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Does this refer to either the Barrow Downs or the Paths of the Dead?
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Nope
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I can't resist. Is it Fredegar Bolger, talking about going into the Old Forest: ‘No one ever has luck in there. You’ll get lost. People don’t go in there.’ (Probably just the last two sentences.)?
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Yep!
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