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Did you just delete the quote, V?
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I posted then deleted and I thought reposted, but it doesn't appear to be there, so here it is.

The new quote is:

So who is the witch, if not you?
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Is 'witch' reasonably close or is it entirely off?

Something about this quote immediately brought to mind Frodo confronting the 'conspirators'.
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Reasonably close.

Frodo was not present.
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Silmarillion?
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No, LOTR.
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Is it an orc speaking?
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Is it concerning Saruman?


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Frelga wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 4:39 pm Is it an orc speaking?
No.
Inanna wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 5:33 pm Is it concerning Saruman?
Only tangentially (though he is mentioned in the discussion in which it is said).
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Is this our intrepid band of Orc-chasers upon meeting Gandalf the White in Fangorn?
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Nope! (Though I love the description).
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Was "witch" originally "wizard"?
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Not exactly (though "wizard" is contained within the original word).
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"Wizardry" perhaps?
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I was gonna say "What wizardry is this?" But I have no idea who said that...
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I think that was movie Théoden, but I don't think that's in the book...
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Is this "fire from Orthanc" context then?
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I think movie Théoden said devilry.

Um. Caradhras?
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Jude wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 3:46 pm "Wizardry" perhaps?
Yes.
Alatar wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 3:52 pm I was gonna say "What wizardry is this?" But I have no idea who said that...
That's not all that far off.
elengil wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 4:11 pm Is this "fire from Orthanc" context then?
Only in a reactive way.
Frelga wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 4:23 pm Um. Caradhras?
No, later.
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You guys are so close, I wouldn't think I would need to give a clue.
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