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I'm making my way through The Iliad. I have to say, I'm finding most of it rather dull. It seems at least 90% of it is graphic descriptions of what happens on the battlefield: who kills who, who injures who, technical descriptions of the injuries and how they were inflicted. I can imagine that for a people brought up on tales of military prowess, this sort of thing might keep them on the edge of their seat, but it's not doing much for me.

I'm putting it aside temporarily for a break to read some other stuff. If anyone's read it and enjoyed it, I'd be interested in any advice on how to approach it...
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Do you all know Brandon Sanderson? I saw him mentioned in the same sentence as Pratchett and Gaiman, but neither his name nor any of his books ring a bell. Usually, I am at least aware of who is whom*.
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Nope, his name is unfamiliar to me.

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Never heard of him, either! Same breath as Pratchett & Gaiman? Was it “Sanderson will never be as good as Pratchett or Gaiman...”; * it’s still the same breath.

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Inanna wrote:Never heard of him, either! Same breath as Pratchett & Gaiman? Was it “Sanderson will never be as good as Pratchett or Gaiman...”; * it’s still the same breath.

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He is, apparently, the writer who was hired to complete Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time, which is not necessarily something that everyone would consider a recommendation.
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V, is there a "not" missing in that sentence?

Inanna, the context was, "every time I ask for recommendations in fantasy, people jump in with Pratchett, Gaiman, and Sanderson." And to me, one of those things is not like the others.
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No.

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Verrry sneaky, V, verrry sneaky.
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This is a great sentence:

“At the beginning of time the Sun was a swaggering oaf.” - NK Jemisin.

(She really is a great writer. Of course, Prim was never wrong about writers.)
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Yeah, I got her 5th Season book that I've just started. (Thick book!!) Enjoying it so far but it's definitely heavier stuff, and still world building just yet. It's a fascinating world, but a lot to introduce the reader to.
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The Broken Earth trilogy, right? I finished the series last month. It’s AMAZING.
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I reserved it from my library when it was first mentioned. The book has finally come in this week, so I'll start it over the weekend.
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Excellent. I look forward to chatting about it with y'all.
Prim really liked Jemisin, and for very good reasons. Her writing is gripping.
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Jude
regarding the Iliad - whose translation did you read, they are of variable quality, I would recommend Lattimores, and if you can get them have some of Malcolm Wilcock's commentaries to hand.
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Brandon Sanderson is a decent author in his own right which is why he was asked to complete Wheel of Time. I wouldn’t put him with Pratchett and Gaiman though. Neither in style nor substance.
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But sometimes you have to settle. So, is he worth an attempt, Al? Did you like his books, at least?
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I only read the first few Mistborn novels. I enjoyed them at the time but I don’t remember much about them which maybe tells it’s own story!
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Inanna wrote:But sometimes you have to settle. So, is he worth an attempt, Al? Did you like his books, at least?
Why settle when you can reread Pratchett?
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Frelga wrote:
Inanna wrote:But sometimes you have to settle. So, is he worth an attempt, Al? Did you like his books, at least?
Why settle when you can reread Pratchett?
Yes but if you never tried any new authors, you'd have never found Pratchett to begin with, no? We all eventually have to read something new otherwise our experiences just stagnate.
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