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Thanks, elengil. I don't think it is. It's neither Hainish nor Orsinian, and set in "real" USA in the near-future. Or near future at the time of writing, so approximately now.
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I haven’t even heard about it!! I thought you were being all tongue-in-cheek in your post earlier.
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Well, thanks to looking through lists of her books, I think I just found one that has eluded me for ages! The Beginning Place! I'll have to read that one again, now that I've found itFrelga wrote:Thanks, elengil. I don't think it is. It's neither Hainish nor Orsinian, and set in "real" USA in the near-future. Or near future at the time of writing, so approximately now.
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was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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I thought perhaps you were making it up as if it SHOULD be one of her books.
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Would I do such a thing?Inanna wrote:I haven’t even heard about it!! I thought you were being all tongue-in-cheek in your post earlier.
No, it's a real book. The treatment of the protagonist and her husband by the state is reminiscent of real-world experience of Soviet dissidents, but everything is much bleaker. It's a real dystopia, there is no hopeful ending, except that apparently some elder Atlantean race is awakening in the deeps as the sea rises.
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I’ll make a note not to read it.
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See, Frelga? So yes, you would.RoseMorninStar wrote:I thought perhaps you were making it up as if it SHOULD be one of her books.
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Is there any possibility it was by a different author?Frelga wrote:No, it's a real book. The treatment of the protagonist and her husband by the state is reminiscent of real-world experience of Soviet dissidents, but everything is much bleaker. It's a real dystopia, there is no hopeful ending, except that apparently some elder Atlantean race is awakening in the deeps as the sea rises.
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was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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I think it might be The New Atlantis.
I am not up for a reread of it. It makes me think of the sign at a bookstore that said that due to recent events, dystopian SF has been moved into a non-fiction section.
I am not up for a reread of it. It makes me think of the sign at a bookstore that said that due to recent events, dystopian SF has been moved into a non-fiction section.
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Yeah... I remember that pictureFrelga wrote:I think it might be The New Atlantis.
I am not up for a reread of it. It makes me think of the sign at a bookstore that said that due to recent events, dystopian SF has been moved into a non-fiction section.
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was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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I actually might like to reread The Dispossessed. Le Guin is one of the few authors who truly fleshed out a society with an alternative family structure and one that is not hierarchical in nature. And she did it better than Heinlein.
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That is one of my fav LeGuin book. Very close to being the favorite.
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It's a heavier read than the Earthsea or the Left Hand of the Darkness (which I think is her masterpiece), but it's fascinating. She is not falling into the trap of presenting something that is (arguably) better than the current society as being perfect. The new order fixes some problems, creates others, and there are always some people who do not fit in in either the old or the new system.Inanna wrote:That is one of my fav LeGuin book. Very close to being the favorite.
Actually, if we could find the time to do a book club type discussion, I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts.
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Ooh, I would love to.
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Le Guin's books would be great fodder for a virtual study group of the type we created on TORC. That was fabulous, but mostly because participants really committed to the process.
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I was today years old when I found out that Stacey Abrams published a number of steamy romance novels as Selena Montgomery.
https://www.harpercollins.com/blogs/aut ... montgomery
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Is that really a real thing?
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The TIME had this inside it last week (I’ll type it up and post it sometime)
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I shall brazenly display my ignorance by admitting I've heard of neither Stacey Abrams nor Selena Montgomery.
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Inanna, no need to type it all out - just take pics and post them.
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