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by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:59 am
Forum: The Shibboleth of Fëanor
Topic: Life-Giving Ladies: Women in the Writings of J.R.R. Tolkien
Replies: 31
Views: 17806

Very interesting, in-depth essay, AJ. Like you I agree with some points more than others. But it is definitely a worthwhile read! I particularly liked her take on Éowyn and Faramir.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:50 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Health Care and the Elderly
Replies: 41
Views: 17053

I find this discussion disturbing, in large part because I do not consider a person's value to be defined by how much work she can do. Even the old and "worthless" are worthy of respect and love. They deserve humane care. By this I do not mean that every extreme medical intervention is ne...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:31 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: John McCain question
Replies: 55
Views: 63948

Long time, no see, sf! It's good to see you here.

My guess is that McCain got in because his father and grandfather were high-level officers. But I don't have any information beyond what you have already posted.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:48 pm
Forum: The Shibboleth of Fëanor
Topic: Life-Giving Ladies: Women in the Writings of J.R.R. Tolkien
Replies: 31
Views: 17806

I look forward to both your comments here, and discussing Letter 43.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:20 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Senator Edward M. Kennedy
Replies: 21
Views: 7944

Kennedy's office has been convening a series of meetings on health care, in preparation for his leading an effort to achieve universal health care early in the new administration. That would be a fitting capstone to his remarkable career.

Kennedy leads renewed effort on universal healthcare
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:50 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The 2008 Presidential Campaign (was Obama Phenomenon 2)
Replies: 3054
Views: 730376

I moved the discussion on Health Care and the Elderly
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:27 pm
Forum: The Shibboleth of Fëanor
Topic: Life-Giving Ladies: Women in the Writings of J.R.R. Tolkien
Replies: 31
Views: 17806

vison, here is the passage you are thinking of, from The Laws and Customs of the Eldar , in Morgoth's Ring : After the betrothal it was the part of the betrothed to appoint the time of their wedding, when at least one year had passed. Then at a feast, again shared by the two houses, the marriage was...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:20 am
Forum: The Shibboleth of Fëanor
Topic: Life-Giving Ladies: Women in the Writings of J.R.R. Tolkien
Replies: 31
Views: 17806

First of all, I realized after the fact that I know who the author is. I knew the name sounded familiar, but I didn't place it at first. If you are reading this, Sandra, let me reiterate that I think overall it is a very good essay. Don't think that my criticism of one or two small passages reflects...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:31 am
Forum: Tolkien's Letters
Topic: Letter 186: On the "real theme" of LOTR, etc.
Replies: 16
Views: 72443

Tell her that we pride ourselves at the level of courtesy and respect we treat each other with. That probably won't make any difference, but maybe it will. ;)
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:40 am
Forum: The Shibboleth of Fëanor
Topic: Life-Giving Ladies: Women in the Writings of J.R.R. Tolkien
Replies: 31
Views: 17806

I just wrote a fairly long response to your question, vison, and it got et. I'll have to try again some other time.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:09 am
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The 2008 Presidential Campaign (was Obama Phenomenon 2)
Replies: 3054
Views: 730376

And again, I don't see it as Obama trying to have both sides of an issue, but rather expressing his views on a complex issue without kowtowing to political interest. He knows he isn't going to win over any "right to life" activists with these comments, and he may alienate some "pro-ch...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:03 am
Forum: Tolkien's Letters
Topic: Letter 186: On the "real theme" of LOTR, etc.
Replies: 16
Views: 72443

vison, why isn't your serious Tolkien scholar friend here? ;)

I hope you'll post your thoughts about Galadriel/Mary in the Shibboleth thread about the essay about women in Tolkien's works.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:06 pm
Forum: Tolkien's Letters
Topic: Letter 186: On the "real theme" of LOTR, etc.
Replies: 16
Views: 72443

Well, if you come up with examples that seem to contradict me, by all means bring em up and let's discuss em!
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:32 pm
Forum: Tolkien's Letters
Topic: Letter 186: On the "real theme" of LOTR, etc.
Replies: 16
Views: 72443

I did come away from reading the Letters with a fairly strong impression that later in his life, Tolkien did become more concerned with fitting Middle-earth into a Christian historical narrative than he had been when he first devised it. Weren't there some changes he began to make, or thought of ma...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:43 pm
Forum: Tolkien's Letters
Topic: Letter 186: On the "real theme" of LOTR, etc.
Replies: 16
Views: 72443

Of course, it is not possible to discuss God's creation outside of his creation, since we ourselves are inside his creation (accepting for the sake of the argument, of course, the existence of God). My point is that the theme of death and deathlessness is explicitly about the nature of God's creatio...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:11 pm
Forum: The Shibboleth of Fëanor
Topic: Life-Giving Ladies: Women in the Writings of J.R.R. Tolkien
Replies: 31
Views: 17806

I'll have to re-read that part of the essay to properly answer that question, which I will try to do later. But in the meanwhile, let me ask you whether you read the essay, and if so, whether you thought that the parallel that she tries to make betweeen the two romances is meritorious.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:42 pm
Forum: Tolkien's Letters
Topic: Letter 52: On Politics
Replies: 41
Views: 194847

Aravar, read the whole letter. Your argument simply makes no sense, particularly in the context of Tolkien writing to Christopher just as he is going off to war. Tolkien isn't talking about any particular political policies, he is talking about the danger of the depersonalization of government, and ...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:48 pm
Forum: Tolkien's Letters
Topic: Letter 52: On Politics
Replies: 41
Views: 194847

Can you also be sure that you are not extending your political views to Tolkien? Pretty sure, because I'm not projecting ANY political views on to Tolkien. He was certainly no Socialist (I'll probably discuss a letter in which he critiques socialism at some point), but there simply isn't any reason...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:11 am
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The 2008 Presidential Campaign (was Obama Phenomenon 2)
Replies: 3054
Views: 730376

Okay, that's the last time I put in a link from National Review. I should have left out that comment about the National Review ranking Obama the most liberal senator. You linking to the National Review is certainly just as valid as someone else linking to, for instance, the HuffingtonPost. You and ...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:44 am
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The 2008 Presidential Campaign (was Obama Phenomenon 2)
Replies: 3054
Views: 730376

Faramond, I think my comments above about same-sex marriage very clearly answer that National Review link (the same magazine, incidentally, that insists on calling Obama the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate, which very clearly isn't true). Regarding, the housing issue, as both Ax and I have s...