The Hall of Fire

Yes, I think in general perjury or encouraging others to perjure themselves would be disqualifying.

What would I have done? What reaction do I find normal or acceptable? These questions are slippery and open ended, and admit a nearly endless variety of answers. And the answers we give usually do not say anything about the person we are supposedly judging. Instead they reveal our biases and perspe...

Frelga, I don't think ending the conversation was Griff's intent. Isn't that what a mic drop essentially is?

As far as I can tell people are enraged at Kavanaugh's testimony because he -- dared to defend himself, and in a way that at least some people found effective. People hold it against him that he was angry, which of course an innocent person would likely be if accused of these sorts of crimes. People...

I think it is a dangerous delusion to think we can watch televised testimony and decide who is telling the truth and who isn't. Not directed at any poster -- just an observation.

Kavanaugh or Ford "doing well" or "seeming authentic" doesn't actually prove anything.

My rant was obviously way out of line and off topic and I am sorry for it. You think I would learn but I never do. I am just so frustrated with all the soft censorship around but there was no call to bring that into this thread with unfounded accusations. Obviously Prim's post set me off but that is...

Oh please. There, you go, yov. Someone who has already made up her mind that Kavanaugh is guilty. edit: Or at the very least, someone who has already decided to always think the worst of her political enemies. That kind of attitude disgusts me. If I returned the favor about Democrats I would get ban...

Why not just call her as a witness?

Faramond - you seem to be arguing with people who are not in this thread. To my knowledge, nobody is here is saying that Kavanaugh is definitely guilty and should be treated as such. I see a lot of statements ( including from you) that seem to put the burden of proof on him, that we should simply b...

No, it means not calling them 'crazy' and actually investigating the claims. The accusation is crazy. The signed statement is bonkers! Can't you see that? All those gang rapes, all this bizarre behavior, and not one person came forward until this woman hired -- Avenetti? What the hey? You don't fin...

You know, if by some miracle Swetnick claims are true, it's just a shame that one of the dozens and dozens of other witnesses that must exist didn't come forward first with a lawyer who isn't as sleazy as Avenetti with more specifics including the names of other witnesses. This is just the worst way...

And even if it was 6%, that's no comfort to the 6% who are falsely accused. What, they don't have rights because there are too few of them? They need to go down because of all the other assholes out there? That is -- monstrous. But you're happy to sacrifice the 94% of women on the altar of 6% of me...

A little late, don't you think, assuming she's telling the truth? The time to ask for an investigation was after the first gang-rape party she went to. In a perfect world, every allegation of sexual misconduct would be investigated as soon as they happen. But this is not a perfect world, and we kno...

I am baffled that anyone would take these lurid Swetnick allegations seriously. If they don't set off the BS detector then the partisan filter is on way too tight. To be fair, I don't think this is particularly a partisan issue. The general message around accusations of sexual assault has recently ...

Why would they go to the police? What can the police do with a 35 yr old accusation? Well, what can the FBI do, if you have so little opinion of the police? I really don't understand your reasoning. So the lawyer who gets criticized for being too showy is now being criticized for keeping a lower pr...

I am baffled that anyone would take these lurid Swetnick allegations seriously. If they don't set off the BS detector then the partisan filter is on way too tight. Context: She is asking for FBI investigation. A little late, don't you think, assuming she's telling the truth? The time to ask for an ...

Allow me to concern troll for a moment -- I am concerned that liberals are running into an obvious trap when they wager their credibility on this story. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/seven-questions-about-the-avenatti-swetnick-story I would actually love to read a rebuttal to all these point...

I am baffled that anyone would take these lurid Swetnick allegations seriously. If they don't set off the BS detector then the partisan filter is on way too tight.

Why not just start a Trump thread in Bag End? Or would that be too lawless?

Yep, now posters are removing posts for no discernible reason. I'm definitely in a Kafka story.

You know, I'm not saying I'm opposed -- I just found it a really odd request with no obvious ( to me ) rationale. Voronwë will do whatever he wants regarding the privacy thing, of course.