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by Voronwë the Faithful
Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:28 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The 2008 Presidential Campaign: Part Three
Replies: 2122
Views: 482165

The reports I have read indicated that he said he will not be doing any campaigning for Obama. I wouldn't expect that he would. I was particularly pleased to see Powell say this: Powell also said he was “troubled” by Republican personal attacks on Obama, especially false intimations that Obama was M...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:04 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Thoughts about Lasto from a longtime poster
Replies: 222
Views: 56037

Sir V, my first inclination would be to say that I have said all I can think to say on a subject like that. But as history has proved time and again, I really, really do seem to always have one more thing to say. ;) I'm not sure how much more I have to say on the subject, either, my friend, but I a...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:59 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The 2008 Presidential Campaign: Part Three
Replies: 2122
Views: 482165

Colin Powell has, in fact, endorsed Obama for president, calling him a transformational figure who was better able to deal with the economy, and to restore America's standing in the world. He also, apparently, expressed displeasure with the negative tone of McCain's campaign, and with his choice of ...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:57 am
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Voting concerns for the upcoming election
Replies: 385
Views: 175463

The article Cerin cites about Wisconsin worries me a lot more than the ACORN business. Why does it need to be a comparison? Why can't someone be concerned about both, as I am? Disenfranchising real voters unfairly is a lot worse, in my book, than filing voter registration forms in the name of Micke...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:04 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Thoughts about Lasto from a longtime poster
Replies: 222
Views: 56037

The older I get, the more I think that although Teremia is right that there are no purely good or purely evil people, it is not that hard to discern good from evil. It's just all too easy to rationalize evil when standing up for good is difficult. My own journey has been different. The older I get,...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:58 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Thoughts about Lasto from a longtime poster
Replies: 222
Views: 56037

I think we should take care not to assume that someone expressing a strong political opinion is also expressing disapproval of everyone who doesn't agree with them. I think that assumption is unfounded. Just because you think it is unfounded, doesn't mean that it necessarily is in all cases. You se...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:37 pm
Forum: Arda Unmarred
Topic: Nature Pics
Replies: 3772
Views: 1144943

Very beautiful, AJ and Lali. Thanks for sharing! :love:
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:31 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Thoughts about Lasto from a longtime poster
Replies: 222
Views: 56037

I think we should take care not to assume that someone expressing a strong political opinion is also expressing disapproval of everyone who doesn't agree with them. I think that assumption is unfounded. Just because you think it is unfounded, doesn't mean that it necessarily is in all cases. I thin...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:15 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The 2008 Presidential Campaign: Part Three
Replies: 2122
Views: 482165

I agree. I think.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:12 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: All Talked Out - Debates Over - Who Won?
Replies: 606
Views: 217448

Could point, yov. In the long run, McCain is the one that is hurt by all of the attention on Joe not being who he said he was, because it deflects the focus AWAY from the point McCain was trying to make.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:48 am
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: All Talked Out - Debates Over - Who Won?
Replies: 606
Views: 217448

Yes. I don't agree with the point that McCain was making, but I understand and even respect it. The fact that the person that he chose to use as the face of that point turned out to have some issues (and which of us don't?) is really irrelevant.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:36 am
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Thoughts about Lasto from a longtime poster
Replies: 222
Views: 56037

ETA: I think you are on to a good example there, Prim. But there has to be another layer, to make the comparison fair... that the Movies forum not just be filled with the happy chatter of pro-PJ fans, but an ugly undercurrent that anyone on the opposing side was not only wrong, but evil. Hate fille...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:15 am
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Thoughts about Lasto from a longtime poster
Replies: 222
Views: 56037

Well, should we go ahead and try Holby's idea? I honestly don't think it would be that difficult to achieve. Put all your biased links and views in the thread for your candidate and save the other thread for, "I feel this way on this issue because...". Obama thread, McCain thread, neutral...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:11 am
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: All Talked Out - Debates Over - Who Won?
Replies: 606
Views: 217448

Exactly, Holby.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:07 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Thoughts about Lasto from a longtime poster
Replies: 222
Views: 56037

I have to agree with hal here. I think this has very clearly illustrated the problem.

But before we get too far off track, I wanted to say that I thought that Holby's post was excellent.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:20 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Voting concerns for the upcoming election
Replies: 385
Views: 175463

Thank you, sf, for responding to this issue without repeating the mantra. I do appreciate it. I am skeptical, however, of the idea of ACORN being the victim of the fraud. I know that is what they want people to believe, but there seems to me to be so many more issues with their registration drive th...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:54 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Voting concerns for the upcoming election
Replies: 385
Views: 175463

A single partisan self-indulgence (screeching) does not invalidate an otherwise informative and well-documented article. And calling something a mythology which is completely and utterly unsupported by evidence is an accuracy, not a slant. The tone of the article speaks for itself. But they are cau...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:23 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Voting concerns for the upcoming election
Replies: 385
Views: 175463

Amazing. In responding to my post, you did exactly what I complained of - stating "this is not a problem because what the other side does is worse." Isn't it possible to talk about this issue without demonizing the other side? Moreover, the quotes that you cite all come from Indiana, one o...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:48 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Voting concerns for the upcoming election
Replies: 385
Views: 175463

This Slate article puts 'voter fraud', suppression and ACORN into perspective. No, what it does is give the left-wing perspective on the issue, which is just as slanted as the right-wing perspective. This sort of a generic comment does not serve to promote a serious discussion. If Voronwë were here...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:45 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Prayer Thread
Replies: 1385
Views: 525245

Oh my! :hug: I will definitely pray for the best for Jim.