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by Sassafras
Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:01 pm
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: Is this for real?
Replies: 161
Views: 67336

Well, you know Voronwë, I was intending to read 'The Hobbit' after finishing LotR .... but somehow, I got sidetracked into reading 'Letters' from cover to cover. :D .... and since I'm only up to 131 there's quite a long way to go! I must say that it's very rewarding to read sequentially instead of s...
by Sassafras
Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:14 pm
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: If Arwen had been cut from the films
Replies: 107
Views: 48316

You've got it, Prim. Thanks :hug:

Whereas you, Ax, do not. :P
by Sassafras
Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:13 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: If Arwen had been cut from the films
Replies: 107
Views: 48316

It's taken me a few days and there's lots of good posts in between but I did want to reply because, as usual, Ath's words got me thinking once again. :hug: Ath wrote: Tolkien wrote: And for all her wisdom and lineage, she could not forebear to plead with him to stay yet for a while. She was not yet ...
by Sassafras
Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:23 pm
Forum: The Shibboleth of Fëanor
Topic: "How to write like Tolkien" and other silliness
Replies: 75
Views: 46985

Naturally, we are going to get really nit-picky. :D

It's what we do...

=:)
by Sassafras
Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:24 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: If Arwen had been cut from the films
Replies: 107
Views: 48316

seems like old times,eh? :) to fulfill that Romance absolutely requires the further mingling of noble Elvish blood with that of one of the last remaining 'true' Numenoreans. So that a stronger strain of elvish blood may continue into the fourth age. Ath wrote: But isn't the child, in essence, just ...
by Sassafras
Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:37 pm
Forum: The Shibboleth of Fëanor
Topic: "How to write like Tolkien" and other silliness
Replies: 75
Views: 46985

Tolkien, of course, invented just such a term. Ellon refers to a male elf. Elleth refers to a female elf. The race is the Eldar . Any fanfiction worth its salt utilizes these terms. "She-elf" is used by Peter Jackson in his movies as an insult ; only the Nazgûl say it. Of course, Tolkien ...
by Sassafras
Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:31 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: If Arwen had been cut from the films
Replies: 107
Views: 48316

:D I accept your that interpretation of the scene, Ath is in fact, probably almost precisely what the writers were attempting to achieve ..... seeing the vision of Eldarion was the catylst that caused Arwen change her mind about leaving Aragorn and Middle Earth. I saw no other symbolism. What I don'...
by Sassafras
Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:14 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: If Arwen had been cut from the films
Replies: 107
Views: 48316

Ah well, I'm indifferent to the kiss. No, really, I am :D although I don't think it necessarily smacks of modern sensibilities. Elves, in the Third Age, even muted Elves still were (I like to believe) capable of passion for all sorts of things .... including romantic love. As for Arwen's pre-cogniti...
by Sassafras
Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:43 am
Forum: Golfimbul's Rabbit Hole
Topic: Take me out to the ballgame!
Replies: 1563
Views: 460457

Interesting article. There's an entire other subculture going on in the clubhouse. On a somewhat related issue .... I wish G38 would just shut up about Clemens. :x http://38pitches.com/ He thinks that Rocket should be stripped of 4 of his 7 Cy Young awards! An excerpt from a Yankee Blog which pretty...
by Sassafras
Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:23 pm
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: Is this for real?
Replies: 161
Views: 67336

:rotfl:
by Sassafras
Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:50 pm
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: Is this for real?
Replies: 161
Views: 67336

But, yes, Sassafras, EVERY single time the dialogue was "updated" or whatever they thought they were doing, it was a clunker. One exception, vison: the invented scene at Parth Galen where Aragorn rejects the Ring. " I would have followed you into the very fires of Mordor. " I st...
by Sassafras
Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:40 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: Is this for real?
Replies: 161
Views: 67336

but one of them is certainly the final confrontation with Saruman. Both versions. But how much was your impression the fault of the script? I disliked most of that scene from start to finish. Except for the parts about 'Gibbets and Crows' taken directly from the book....... Saruman perched on the t...
by Sassafras
Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:35 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: How will PJ adapt the Hobbit?
Replies: 36
Views: 20299

:scarey:
by Sassafras
Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:33 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: Is this for real?
Replies: 161
Views: 67336

I'm puzzled, Holby, at what you found lacking in Ian McKellan's acting. I thought it was right on target. :scratch: Me too. I demand an explanation.! (except for that awful forced laughter when Frodo wakes in Minis Tirith :x Have I ever mentioned hating those few moments? Elijah's laughter is worse...
by Sassafras
Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:22 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: If Arwen had been cut from the films
Replies: 107
Views: 48316

Athrabeth wrote: Maybe it's because he really reminds me of some of the "more human" Elves of the Sil.......especially Thingol. I know, I know - Book Elrond ISN'T like Thingol. Not a bit. But for me, it was kind of neat to see that connection. And I actually thought that it was quite refr...
by Sassafras
Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:45 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: If Arwen had been cut from the films
Replies: 107
Views: 48316

Actually, even as Gandalf the White he knew doubt, and even apprehension, if not actual fear. Witness the reaction to Faramir's news of seeing Frodo. True, although I draw a distinction between his fear for Frodo and his conviction during the Last Debate that he has sent Frodo to his death whereupo...
by Sassafras
Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:40 pm
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: How will PJ adapt the Hobbit?
Replies: 36
Views: 20299

Lalaith wrote:Scrubbing bubbles ghosts?! :scratch: Please explain. :D
The Dead swarming over Pelannor and into Minis Tirith looked a lot like a TV commercial for the toilet cleaner .... 'scrubbing bubbles'.

:D
by Sassafras
Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:33 pm
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: If Arwen had been cut from the films
Replies: 107
Views: 48316

Funny though he counselled Gandalf a couple of times in the movies though. I always found that odd. Ah. The diminishing of Gandalf. :x I take particular exception to that arc in Aragorn's character development. It's all wrong and completely unnecessary, my speculation is that in RotK the scriptwrit...
by Sassafras
Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:23 pm
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: If Arwen had been cut from the films
Replies: 107
Views: 48316

Without Arwen the entire dynamic would have changed. I think her expanded role did actually work quite well for the most part .... although I take strong exception to the silly ALINTTTFOTR subplot (as those who know me well can attest :D ) One has to keep in mind, I think, that PJ was making a comme...
by Sassafras
Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:21 am
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: Is this for real?
Replies: 161
Views: 67336

Start a new thread! I've been itching to both complain and praise the films again. Oddly enough, I didn't much like Fellowship this time around ... whereas before I always thought it was the best of the three .... but even Boromir's slo-mo scene death struck me as over-done. And, of course, I still ...