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by solicitr
Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:46 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

Maureen Dowd continues the pile-on Now we learn the sickening news that Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, nicknamed “God’s Rottweiler” when he was the church’s enforcer on matters of faith and sin, ignored repeated warnings and looked away in the case of the Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy, a Wisconsin priest who ...
by solicitr
Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:22 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Blood libel
Replies: 21
Views: 21177

Charisma goes a long way in this world.
Yep. Look at all the deluded Fidel and Che fans.
(Kim Jong-Il, not so much)
by solicitr
Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:20 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

He wasn't being subjected to interrogation. He was asked to help out with information on a sexual abuse case and refused. That's not how I would characterize a demand that he appear before a House investigations committee. If the Parliament wanted information from the Irish Church, they should have...
by solicitr
Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:25 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Blood libel
Replies: 21
Views: 21177

The HRC's agenda *always* relates to "Human rights situation in Palestine and other occupied Arab territories.’" Why Orwellian-named? Because this gang which calls itself a "Human Rights" council consists of Cuba, China, Saudi Arabia... you name 'em, the worst human rights abuser...
by solicitr
Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:40 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

A Nuncio is a diplomat: he's the Vatican ambassador. It is a grievous breach of protocol for a government to subject an ambassador to interrogation, and the Irish parliament was way, way out of line. If they wanted to, they could have subpoenaed, say, the Archbishop of Dublin, who is an Irishman; bu...
by solicitr
Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:38 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Blood libel
Replies: 21
Views: 21177

:bang:
by solicitr
Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:11 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

What I was suggesting was that all institutions are necessarily prone to some degree of corruption, venality and vice; and therefore any institution which even attempts to provide guidance is going to be guilty of a measure of hypocrisy. It's the way of the fallen world. Congress still has the power...
by solicitr
Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:05 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

Weakland's reasoning (which I disagree with) was that proceedings should be put on hold because Murphy was a dying man. This happens in the criminal courts, too, if a defendant becomes too ill to participate effectively in his own defense. However, the case was brought *specifically* because his vic...
by solicitr
Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:47 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

But someone tried to stop the trial, if I understand what 'abate' means in that context.
Yes- Murphy's lawyers. Effectively, they succeeded in running out the clock.
by solicitr
Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:13 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Blood libel
Replies: 21
Views: 21177

Wonderful.. Now the UN's Orwellian-named "Human Rights" Council is spreading the blood libel:

UN propagates Israeli organ theft allegation
by solicitr
Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:47 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

And there, in a nutshell, is the problem people are having with the Catholic apparatus. This was an internal trial. Nothing was handed over to the police. That is simply untrue. Why didn't the Church go to the police in 1974? THEY DID. The police, however, chose not to believe the children, as woul...
by solicitr
Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:04 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

No, a Pope can resign, generally understood as being for reasons like ill-health, although if that's ever happened it's been a long, long time. Now, back in the Middle Ages quite a few Popes "abdicated" involuntarily- and were promptly condemned by the successors who ousted them. And there...
by solicitr
Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:43 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

Meanwhile, back at the press ranch:

CNN brings on as an "expert" guest to discuss Catholicism- Sinead O'Connor.

Maybe next they'll have a Passover roundtable with Hassan Nasrallah....
by solicitr
Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:42 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

Rectangular building things: Setting the record straight in the case of abusive Milwaukee priest Father Lawrence Murphy Then-presiding judge for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee gives first-person account of church trial By Fr. THOMAS BRUNDAGE, JCL (and of course a media feeding frenzy. No demonization?)
by solicitr
Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:24 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

"There is a systematic effort by some groups to have public schools just shut down and go away"???????
by solicitr
Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:22 pm
Forum: Tolkien Movies: The Road Goes Ever On
Topic: General Hobbit Movie Info (AVOID IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS)
Replies: 2780
Views: 705851

‘The Hobbit’ Delayed by MGM Financial Woes Digital Spy spoke to Any Serkis, the actor who provided the motion-capture performance that brought Gollum to such vivid life in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. In that discussion, Serkis dropped the news that The Hobbit would not be underway until the end ...
by solicitr
Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:48 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

However, you can't overlook the concerted effort on the part of some to dredge up something, anything to hang on Josef Ratzinger personally , no matter how tenuous. When he was first elected there was a drive, if you recall, to paint him as a 'Nazi.' (This can't be urelated to the massive, longstand...
by solicitr
Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:54 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

Sure, SF- but then you're one of those ex-Catholics who really, really hate the Church.
by solicitr
Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:32 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Pope's Apology. Does it go far enough?
Replies: 282
Views: 115134

And a counter-view: This Pope has done more than any other churchman to address the issue of priestly child abuse. He has stopped the practice of turning over priests accused of abuse to therapists, as we now know that therapy seldom helps a paedophile. He has fast-tracked the defrocking of priests ...