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by Voronwë the Faithful
Sat May 10, 2008 1:14 am
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The Obama Phenomenon and the 2008 Presidential Campaign
Replies: 3736
Views: 941557

Edwards has explicitly stated that he would not accept an offer to be on the ticket from either Clinton or Obama. Whether he would stick by that, I don't know, but that is what he said.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri May 09, 2008 10:56 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The Obama Phenomenon and the 2008 Presidential Campaign
Replies: 3736
Views: 941557

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Cerin. That is helpful to me. I was just listening to part of the NPR show On Point, and one of the guests was making the point that race is a two-edged sword in this election. It provides some obvious challenges to Obama, of course, as we have seen with the Rev. Wr...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri May 09, 2008 7:37 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Delegate Mirth ( the end has come! )
Replies: 445
Views: 182463

What an excellent (and widely disregarded in the media) observation, Faramond.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri May 09, 2008 7:05 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The Obama Phenomenon and the 2008 Presidential Campaign
Replies: 3736
Views: 941557

An editorial from the New York Times, which has endorsed Clinton: Sen. Clinton and the Campaign Published: May 9, 2008 There is a lot of talk that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is now fated to lose the Democratic nomination and should pull out of the race. We believe it is her right to stay in the ...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri May 09, 2008 6:58 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Delegate Mirth ( the end has come! )
Replies: 445
Views: 182463

I want to make something clear, in case it hasn't been made clear already. I agree with Cerin that the Michigan and Florida situation has been horribly bungled by the DNC, and that it never should have come to the point that it has. But it has. Where we differ (if I understand correctly) is what wou...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri May 09, 2008 3:51 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The Obama Phenomenon and the 2008 Presidential Campaign
Replies: 3736
Views: 941557

tinwë , I saw that too. Very disappointing. It is one thing to want to carry on and fight until the end; that is admirable. That kind of rhetoric (in my opinion) does not reflect well on her. Speaking of things that don't reflect well on her, here is a copy of the "open letter" that she s...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri May 09, 2008 3:06 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Omar Khadr: vicious terrorist or child soldier?
Replies: 76
Views: 27806

I'm at a total loss for words. :(
by Voronwë the Faithful
Fri May 09, 2008 2:36 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Delegate Mirth ( the end has come! )
Replies: 445
Views: 182463

Obama picked up two more superdelegates today, including one that switched from Clinton. According to ABC News, Obama has now taken the lead in superdelegates. Other news organizations still have Clinton with a lead of varying amounts (which seems odd to me, but I don't pretend to understand politic...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 11:22 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Delegate Mirth ( the end has come! )
Replies: 445
Views: 182463

Cerin, would you agree with this statement: "The best result would be if Michigan and Florida's delegates are seated in a way that does not unfairly influence the result of the election"? Obama picked up two more superdelegates today, by the way. He is now only seven behind Clinton in the ...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 10:21 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Delegate Mirth ( the end has come! )
Replies: 445
Views: 182463

I think we are overlooking an important point here: that Hillary's arguments can be both self-interested and correct. I've heard both sides of the coin argued here in this thread - that it would be bad for the party if those delegations were seated because it would upend the decision of the nationa...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 10:08 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Delegate Mirth ( the end has come! )
Replies: 445
Views: 182463

He has never argued that superdelegates should be prohibited from voting contrary to the popular vote, delegate count, etc. He has only argued that it would be wrong for them to do so, because it would damage the party. I don't think so. I think the Obama camp has aggressively pushed the idea that ...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 8:46 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Delegate Mirth ( the end has come! )
Replies: 445
Views: 182463

I see a big difference. Obama has never argued that any rules should be changed. He has never argued that superdelegates should be prohibited from voting contrary to the popular vote, delegate count, etc. He has only argued that it would be wrong for them to do so, because it would damage the party....
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 7:56 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Delegate Mirth ( the end has come! )
Replies: 445
Views: 182463

The polls don't support the notion that Democratic voters in Florida are so outraged that they are going to flock to McCain or not vote. For whatever that is worth.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 7:45 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Omar Khadr: vicious terrorist or child soldier?
Replies: 76
Views: 27806

Faramond is absolutely right. Solicitr, you are out of line. Personal attacks and insults against our members are strictly against our by-laws.

Cross-posted with Prim's shirriff's note
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 7:39 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Discrimination against the obese (and related issues)
Replies: 78
Views: 29527

Thank you very much for that post, V-dude. Very interesting. I'm not entirely sure how much it addresses my question (beyond a kind of "because we said so" sort of answer :P) but it might help me understand why we went this route instead of the route I proposed. So was the legal reasoning...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 3:05 pm
Forum: The Shibboleth of Fëanor
Topic: Music, classical or otherwise, for LOTR
Replies: 70
Views: 44461

[ot]Lali, I love your new lolcat pic![/ot]
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 1:21 am
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Discrimination against the obese (and related issues)
Replies: 78
Views: 29527

yov, you did see that I answered your question, yes?
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 08, 2008 12:59 am
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Discrimination against the obese (and related issues)
Replies: 78
Views: 29527

I'm going to respond to yov's previous question (reiterated by Ax) by giving a brief history of how the employment relationship has been viewed by the American legal system. I hasten to point out that this post doesn't reflect my views of how things should be, only how they are (okay, it's possible ...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Wed May 07, 2008 10:58 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: Delegate Mirth ( the end has come! )
Replies: 445
Views: 182463

It is likely either true, or very close to true. As you know the Republicans have a mish-mash of different rules for different states, some of them proportional like the Democrats use, some of them winner take or all, and some of them a complicated mix of them. I believe that many of the bigger stat...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Wed May 07, 2008 8:05 pm
Forum: 2008 U.S. Presidential Election
Topic: The Obama Phenomenon and the 2008 Presidential Campaign
Replies: 3736
Views: 941557

That's actually quite a good (if elitist) point, Ax. Looking at from a fully cynical point of view, Richardson has the advantage of being Hispanic and therefore being attractive to other Hispanics, but not seeming Hispanic, and therefore not being off-putting to the group who are less tolerant of pe...