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by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:16 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The Moral Imperative
Replies: 182
Views: 57997

And yet, as vison put it, I always, always, feel - do I have the right to judge? Do I know all the information about that person, his/her situation to make a sound judgment? I don't know if we have a "right" to judge per se, but we do have a need to do so. Regardless of whether we have al...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:40 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The nature of truth
Replies: 80
Views: 36251

In a way, yes. The way we tell stories, the details we choose to subtract or add, all contribute to either making that story seem true or seem to expose some truth or do neither. A story may be factually true... a police blotter, but what are the qualities that make a story seem true for you? If you...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:56 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The nature of truth
Replies: 80
Views: 36251

I'm not sure I can explain why something feels like Truth to me. It's in the gut. It's a recognition of something I've always known but had no words for That's a perfect explanation. In The Things They Carry one of the qualities of a true war story that the narrator discusses is whether you can fee...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:54 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The nature of truth
Replies: 80
Views: 36251

TED-- In terms of verisimilitude, the second sounds more like a narrative, while the first sounds more like a police blotter. My problem with answering your question is that I smell the tools of narrative from a long way off, which makes it impossible for me to answer without bias. :D Oh, you are s...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:21 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The nature of truth
Replies: 80
Views: 36251

Well, if they were the same, then the difference would be one is bare bones and one is more in depth. Would one of those resonate as more true? What are the qualities of a true story? So many movies are "based on true events," but what makes those less true than their true events or more t...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:04 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The nature of truth
Replies: 80
Views: 36251

I'd say all stories are about truth-seeking in some way. Some are more overt than others. To go back to my opening, which story seems more true to you? Any reason why? *Note: there is no "right" answer to my question. I'm just curious what makes a story resonate as true for different people.
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:49 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The nature of truth
Replies: 80
Views: 36251

Truth may be relative to what you are seeking from a story.
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:28 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The nature of truth
Replies: 80
Views: 36251

The nature of truth

Which story is true: A) A family van nearly careens off a cliff after hitting an icy patch on the road. Quick reaction from the father (driver) results in the van only crashing into the guard rail. The son suffers a broken arm in the crash. B) A family van nearly careens off a cliff instead hits an ...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:08 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

Good quote, Lid.
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:57 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

That final verse is the key to the whole poem. Someone in my class pointed out an interesting aspect to the "I have not" lines. I have not lingered I have not parted I have not held I have not become I have not become I have not worshipped I have not been I laugh I sleep Interesting breakd...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:45 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

Interestingly, I discussed a poem in class tonight that highlighted that sentiment that you are expressing, Holby. "I have not lingered in European monasteries" by Leonard Cohen.
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:56 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

That wouldn't be insulting. What is insulting is making disparaging comments about other people's beliefs. Suppose I said I viewed the Muslim prophet as obscene and lecherous, or as a brute and a bully. Would I be thanked for being respectful? But no one has said those kinds of things about anyone'...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:01 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

This is what intrigues me and strikes me as peculiar -- why predicate the thread on a negative, rather than offering a parallel to the other -- ex., 'The nature of your atheistic beliefs'. This makes the thing rejected the focus of the discussion. I should think it would be preferable to atheists t...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:24 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

At any rate, the thing that strikes me now about my actions then is how easily I simply stopped being religious in any real sense of the word. I came to the conclusion some time ago this was due to any lack of spiritual feeling on my part underlying the religiosity. I went through all the education...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:02 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

I certainly wish there was an afterlife, where I could be reunited with all of my dear family members who have died. I wish there was a benevolent and all powerful guy up there, personally interested in my welfare. I wish I could change things with prayer. But wishing and believing aren't the same ...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:49 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

axordil wrote:TED--as I understand them, the question of what ethics to subscribe to is a point of ongoing conversation there, which is one reason I thought you might be interested. :D
Ahhhhh! Sounds like my kind of place... 8)
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:06 pm
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

Ax, I have not looked into ethical societies. I'm unsure which ethics I'd subscribe to anyway.
Why should saying "I believe differently" be offensive? Why should my sense of identity impinge on yours, or vice versa?
Good point. Sharing your thoughts shouldn't be offensive.
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:38 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: Why I am not a believer
Replies: 131
Views: 52576

My parents tried to teach me (they aren't that religious). I was catholic and lutheran. I did everything from baptism to confirmation. I was never a strong believer in things that rely on something outside of my senses (for me, it's the imagination). I have an active imagination, so if I could creat...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:09 am
Forum: Golfimbul's Rabbit Hole
Topic: Soccer: for Ireland, not such a beautiful game . . .
Replies: 4
Views: 14436

“Hansson ought to avoid travelling to Ireland ever again,” reads the headline of his Thursday column. And one Swedish referee, Anders Frisk, was forced into retirement after receiving death threats following his decision to send off Chelsea’s Didier Drogba during a 2005 Champions League match again...
by TheEllipticalDisillusion
Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:07 am
Forum: Tol Eressëa
Topic: The nature of your deity
Replies: 117
Views: 46490

Why do you say "one reality behind them, Prim?"