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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:07 pm 
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Heck, until just now when I went and looked it up, I always thought Oz was a black-and-white film that had been colorized later when such things became possible.


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 1:29 pm 
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Nope. And in fact, the Kansas scenes aren't even true Black and White. They're sepia toned.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 2:04 pm 
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*Wikies* Huh. Technicolor goes back to 1916, although it started as a two-color process. Cool story, actually. They had full color by 1929 but then Depression hit and they rolled back to save money. The Wizard of Oz came out in 1939.

And the Brits had a two-color process back in 1906!

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 2:45 pm 
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Well; to further embarrass myself, I also thought Technicolor was a process used to convert black-and-white films to color.

Kinda takes some of the subtext out of "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat."


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 9:52 am 
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Continuing with the Oz books - in "The Patchwork Girl of Oz" (1913) there's an episode where Ojo and his companions are captured (swallowed) by tree-like plants. They are rescued by The Shaggy Man who uses music to release them (actually whistling instead of singing).

I wonder if Tolkien had read this and either consciously or unconsciously had this episode in mind when Frodo and his companions reached the Old Forest? Considering the popularity of the Oz books in the early 20th century, it's not unreasonable to think that he read them.

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I wouldn't be surprised if there was another, ancient, myth in which a tree swallowed people and had to be sung to. I tried googling for it right now, but I got a million results.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 1:46 pm 
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Did one of those results cite an actual real myth? I'd be interested to read it...

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I got a gazillion results for tree/plant myths and music myths. But nothing that popped out specific to the one we are thinking of. Am intrigued, I’ll try again.

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