Marvel Movie Madness

[Sunsilver]

He is able to communicate telepathically with other heroes and has been trained to ascend to higher levels of consciousness and politeness.

Okay, how's that for a stereotype? LMAO!!

[yovargas]

Supernatural politeness could actually be an amazingly strong power. I'm imagining someone so incredibly, overwhelmingly polite that no one could ever be mad at them or have the heart to cause them harm. That would be an incredibly hard to stop superpower!

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Yeah, but even comic book superheroes have to have a modicum of plausibility.

[Sunsilver]

The best thing about Marvel comic superheroes was, unlike the DC superheroes they sometimes got mad at each other. This made them seem more human and easier to relate to. Ben Grimm of the Fantastic Four even had a street gang that was constantly pulling pranks on him, the Yancy Street Gang. It was SO funny!

[elengil]

... finally watched Endgame.

*late as usual*

[Voronwë the Faithful]

And now for another perspective.

Martin Scorsese Compares Marvel Movies to Theme Parks: ‘That’s Not Cinema’

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[Maria]

We started to watch Endgame last week, and it was immediately apparent that we needed to see "Captain Marvel' first. So we stopped Endgame and rented Captain Marvel and then got back to Endgame.

I'm kind of tired of the required viewing thing. Endgame implies that that is the end of that, though. Are they truly done now?

[Alatar]

I doubt it. The Marvel Movies are intended to be treated like a Big Screen Series. You wouldn't jump into Random Episodes of Game of Thrones and expect to know whats happening. Its the same thing. If they had to explain every previous movie the recap would take longer than the movie, and if they make them completely standalone you lose all the depth that the connected universe brings. I think thats just the price of entry.

[yovargas]

We started to watch Endgame last week, and it was immediately apparent that we needed to see "Captain Marvel' first. So we stopped Endgame and rented Captain Marvel and then got back to Endgame.

I'm kind of tired of the required viewing thing.

Just think of it like a TV series. If you want to understand everything that's happening, you wouldn't skip over episodes, would you?

Endgame implies that that is the end of that, though. Are they truly done now?

Oh, definitely not. You definitely could not watch the last Spiderman movie without having seen Endgame first.

[Maria]

Oh... OK.... well, it's getting complicated enough that I'm going to have to refer to a chronological list from now on. (I just did so) We've missed "AntMan and Wasp". And I guess we can watch Spiderman Far from home now.

It gets confusing when you aren't all that invested in the series and wait for them to come out on Bluray first, and sometimes to wait for the bluray to get cheaper before you actually buy.

[Maria]

Ack... it gets worse when the list includes the TV shows:

Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
Marvel's Agent Carter Season 1 (2015)
Marvel's Agent Carter Season 2 (2016)
Captain Marvel (2019)
Iron Man (2008)
Iron Man 2 (2010)
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Thor (2011)
The Avengers (2012
Iron Man 3 (2013)
Thor: The Dark World (2013)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D Season 1 (2013)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017)
Daredevil Season 1 (2015)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2014)
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D Season 2 (2014)
Ant-Man (2015)
Jessica Jones Season 1 (2015)
Daredevil Season 2 (2016)
Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D Season 3 (2015)
Luke Cage Season 1 (2016)
Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
Doctor Strange (2016)
Black Panther (2018)
Iron Fist Season 1 (2017)
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D Season 4 (2016)
The Defenders Season 1 (2017)
The Inhumans Season 1 (2017)
Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
The Punisher Season 1 (2017)
Jessica Jones Season 2 (2018)
Luke Cage Season 2 (2018)
Cloak and Dagger Season 1 (2018)
The Runaways Season 1 (2017)
Daredevil Season 3 (2018)
The Punisher Season 2 (2019)
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D Season 5 (2017)
Iron Fist Season 2 (2018)
Ant-Man and The Wasp (2018)
Avengers Infinity War (2018)
Avengers: Endgame (2019)
Spiderman: Far From Home (2 July 2019)

We've missed quite a few of those.
I'm not sure I care.

[yovargas]

None of the TV shows matter when watching the movies. I don't think the Netflix shows are really meant to be part of the same "universe" at all.

[Túrin Turambar]

I have dropped in and out of the MCU without being lost, e.g. I watched Black Panther without having seen the Avengers films. That said, I get the impression the Avengers films - Ultron, Infinity War, Endgame - are meant to be treated as a series.

[Maria]

I think the movies are important to the TV series, but not the reverse.

[Frelga]

The Netflix series are technically set in the same universe (the bad guy in Daredevil moves in on the heels of property damage from Avengers 1, for example). Disney already said they are cutting Netflix off, though, so none of these characters will appear in future movies.

[Alatar]

I suspect that is a prelude to resuming the series on Disney's own streaming channel.

[Frelga]

They already said they won't resume or renew the Netflix series. And announced a bunch of their own series for upcoming Disney+, so that's probably that.

[Alatar]

That seems remarkably shortsighted.

[Frelga]

I agree. The splintering of paid streaming services is only going to encourage piracy.

[yovargas]

Just cuz she's dead doesn't mean we shouldn't get a cool new movie about her!