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That's the one! No, it didn't change very much, but I was amused by the thought of a drink getting up and sitting on someone's head.

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This is from Unfinished Tales and was considerably shortened from the original quote:

The master of destiny challenged his destiny.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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That sounds like Túrin.
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Not spoken by Túrin.
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She musta meant "That sounds like something you would say to Túrin".
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Not spoken to Túrin, either. ;)
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Because he is dead at the time?
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I musta meant 'She musta meant "That sounds like something you would say about Túrin"'.
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I only have the Sil, which has Nienor saying "A Túrin Turambar turun ambartanen: master of doom by doom mastered!"
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Right speaker; wrong quote. And no, Túrin is not dead (obviously, since Nienor dies before he does). Nor does she yet think he is dead.

(ETA: It is in Children of Húrin too, so if you have that but not UT you can look there. And if you don't have either, well, you should! ;))
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I do have Children of Húrin, who do you take me for?
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I take you for a beautiful, intelligent, kind and funny woman, and I always have!
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(Who’s secretly ten).
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Frelga wrote:I do have Children of Húrin, who do you take me for?
How do you have Children of Húrin, but not UT!
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Gosh, V. That's awfully sweet. Thank you, you dear man. :hug:

Inanna, I do have UT, but it's in paper form and I can't check it from work.
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Frelga wrote: Inanna, I do have UT, but it's in paper form and I can't check it from work.
Ah, of course. The Same as me, then.
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Found the book, can't find the quote, if there not the one the one I posted.
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It's in there. As I said, the original quote is longer than the translated quote. Oddly, only the first part of the original quote seems to have survived the translation. The same word is twice changed to the same word. It is a sentence inside a longer speech that Niniel makes to one person, but with a group people near by.
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I'm sure it's there, I just don't know where. :help:

If anyone does, please don't wait for me!
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I may have found it: "The Master of Doom is gone to challenge his doom far hence, and how shall I stay here and wait for the slow coming of tidings, good or ill?"

Spoken to Brandir after Turambar went off to fight Glaurung.
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