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Yes

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Yeah, I think its from The Hobbit, regarding Gandalf healing the Lord of the Eagles.
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Nope, not from the Hobbit, not involving Gandalf.

I should clarify my previous answer to say that it only peripherally involves the Eagles (and one Eagle in particular). Where it says "all birds" it really does mean "all birds".
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So is "all birds" a phrase present in the original?
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Yup!

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Is it in the Sil?
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Yes'm!
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Is another hint necessary?
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I think so.
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The person being spoken to was not physically present, but still 'responded'.

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The first thing that comes to mind is Beren's conversation with the ghost of Gorlim. Am I on the right track?
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No. Remember the birds. And the Eagle.

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Anyone?
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My Silmarillion is rusty. If nobody else has any guesses, you may have to give another hint.

It's been high up on my "to re-read" list for ages, but I already have a huge pile of books on my bedside table to get through first.
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A note for the Kindle owners who also have Amazon Prime - you can download the Sil for free, and it's a LOT more readable in that format. Even if I suspect Tolkien would have been horrified by that statement.
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Hmmm? I'm Prime member, and it tells me it is $9.99 for the Kindle version.

As for another hint, the quote is a prayer of sorts, which is answered.
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Was it spoken to Illuvatar?

Edit: another one for our magic word filter - the "u" needs an acute accent.
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Actually, you added an extra "l". It is Ilúvatar.

As for your question, no, but arguably the next best thing.
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Spoken to Manwë?
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Yup!

ETA: But as I said earlier, he was not physically present at the place where it was spoken but he still "responded'.
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