Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens—non-spoiler discussion
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That certainly beats "Darth Maul". (Although for the age group that TPM was directed at, Maul was probably perfect).
I continue to be cautiously excited.
PtB, I don't think you were around to comment about the second teaser trailer. Any thoughts about it that you care to share (I was very impressed with it).
I continue to be cautiously excited.
PtB, I don't think you were around to comment about the second teaser trailer. Any thoughts about it that you care to share (I was very impressed with it).
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I dove into the spoilers and decided about a fourth of the way through that they were so vague and confusing as to be just a frustration. (I already inadvertently read a very major spoiler, one I wish I hadn't, and so kind of feel there's nothing left to be lost. But I couldn't get through this.)
But "rip-roaring" with "mystery and depth," in your judgment, PtB? Now that gives me chills. Is it Christmas yet?
But "rip-roaring" with "mystery and depth," in your judgment, PtB? Now that gives me chills. Is it Christmas yet?
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
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Yeah, I don't mind spoilers if they are presented in a comprehensible manner, but after spending about 30 seconds looking at the link I decided it wasn't worth my time. But if PtB wants to write up a description (and put it behind spoiler tags) I will gladly read it.
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OK, so I was floored by the second teaser. The first shot alone was worthy of comparison to the best shots of the original trilogy, including the opening scene of A New Hope, where the rebel ship flies past and is then followed by an unbelievably massive, seemingly miles-long ship of the Empire (which we later learn is a Star Destroyer). That one shot delivered so much information, visually, that you barely needed dialogue to describe what was happening. A massive, evil entity is pursuing a smaller, good entity. That's the story right there. At the beginning of the new The Force Awakens trailer, you see a small speeder approaching the ruins of a massive Star Destroyer (with a downed X-Wing in the foreground as well, if you look closely). This tells us so much. This is an old world/ galaxy that has seen war on a massive scale. The husks of that war lay littered across the landscape. And someone, a small someone, approaches it. The rest of the trailer was also a visual feast. Such rich colors, and it all looked so believable and alive, and used. The new actors looked like they were acting their hearts out. They seemed to actually be in danger! And Luke's monologue from Return of the Jedi, overlaying the visuals, and that new version of the force theme. Chills. Then Han Solo and Chewie show up, and I'm done. McConaughey tears, all the way.
The spoilers you tried to read are presented that way because they are directly referencing the Making Star Wars site (and the original source material they drew from). The poster is deliberately not interpreting the information, so as to remain as objective as possible about the meaning of the leaked material. If you take the time, the story reveals itself quite well. However, it's a bit of a slog. I'll take a hack at a summary, and post it shortly!
The spoilers you tried to read are presented that way because they are directly referencing the Making Star Wars site (and the original source material they drew from). The poster is deliberately not interpreting the information, so as to remain as objective as possible about the meaning of the leaked material. If you take the time, the story reveals itself quite well. However, it's a bit of a slog. I'll take a hack at a summary, and post it shortly!
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Thanks, PtB. I concur about the teaser, and look forward to your summary of the spoilers (don't forget the tags!).
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Alright, here be massive spoilers. I have taken the Chronology from the Jedi Council Forums, and turned it into a more coherent synopsis. I have tried to note where I am speculating based on the information given, vs. where I am simply reporting information from leaked official materials (call sheets, shooting schedules, production schedules and shot logs, most likely). That said, this essentially covers all the leaked info about the film thus far. What's missing is dialogue, and information about re-shoots and pickups. So this is a general gist of the story, though it is quite extensive. There are still many important details missing. Final warning. If you don't want to be spoiled, this is the absolute worst thing you could possibly read. Even though it's awesome.
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Sorry.
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So, what do you think?River wrote:
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I think that it's all going to depend on the acting and the dialog, but it has the bones of a dazzling space opera. If nothing else, it is set up to bring the eye candy.
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I'll have to wait until tomorrow to read through that. No sense in skimming it now. I'll comment when I get the chance.
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Read it. River, can I borrow your mop?
There are so many possibilities for not just stunning battles but genuinely involving, even moving character moments. And settings we haven't seen before (and one at least that we have!). I see great visuals ahead.
Of course it could all be preposterous. But I no longer think that's very likely.
I especially like that
There are so many possibilities for not just stunning battles but genuinely involving, even moving character moments. And settings we haven't seen before (and one at least that we have!). I see great visuals ahead.
Of course it could all be preposterous. But I no longer think that's very likely.
I especially like that
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“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
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If, of course, any of this can even be believed. Honestly, it doesn't make that much of an impression on me as a narrative. No drooling here, though I'm not put off, either."Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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I agree with your sentiment about that issue, Voronwë. However,
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“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
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Yes, a very big thank you to PtB for taking the time to put that together!
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Thanks all!
And in case you were wondering, I love Luke's rumored role, not least because it avoids fan service and nostalgia-peddling for what seems like a solid, evocative and Star Warsy narrative rationale.
And in case you were wondering, I love Luke's rumored role, not least because it avoids fan service and nostalgia-peddling for what seems like a solid, evocative and Star Warsy narrative rationale.
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Also, just so y'all know, I also put together that longer, harder to penetrate, interpretation-free chronology on the Jedi Council Forums. Yes. I've been cheating on Tolkien with Star Wars.
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Well, those of us who live in glass houses are uninclined to throw stones. I'm not on those forums, but I've had a thing for Star Wars since 1977.
The prequels were a rough patch in the relationship (as in, I moved out). But we're dating casually again, and I think it might end up going somewhere.
The prequels were a rough patch in the relationship (as in, I moved out). But we're dating casually again, and I think it might end up going somewhere.
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
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A light-hearted thought came to me. Am I the only one here who saw the Chrome Stormtrooper and thought of Cylon Centurions? Seriously, if Chrome Stormtrooper says "By your command," I will either laugh inappropriately or throw my drink at the screen (and miss).
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Spoilery response!Voronwë the Faithful wrote:Hidden text.
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