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And based on the detailed spoiler review, Fili and Kili both do die defending their uncle (which is what I said before; I said nothing about his "body").Elentári wrote:Well, DCole did say
Well, V, since you included it among the important points that you hope were in, I assumed you would consider it "bad" if it wasn't "checked"I'll comment on the first 2/3 of the film later. For now I'll focus on the "bad" moments in the last 1/3 of the film. Mostly to put the information out there, and prepare you for the film.
Personally, for me the good far, far outweighs the bad because the important points are checked
BTW, Vashetti on TORn (who has owned to writing the detailed spoiler post, has confirmed that Tauriel kisses Kili on the lips...so to all intents and purposes it's meant to denote "romantic" feelings, not a "blessing" type kiss on the forehead like Aragorn/Boromir or Galadriel/Frodo...Voronwë the Faithful wrote:And I am already seeing things that undermine the things that he talks about that he doesn't like. He says in his review that there is a kiss between Tauriel and Kili, but in actuality he confirms later that she kisses him after he is dead (like Aragorn and Boromir). Big, big difference than an romantic kiss between two living souls.
In response to some questions from Siddharth (our own SV):My initial impressions are that it's the best of the three, though it's very much a part of the same. If you hated the first two, I don't think this film will make you dramatically change your mind. That being said, it felt like the most faithful of the three as well. There are digressions, and obviously invented sequences and characters, but for the most part events unfold in the order they do in the book and characters essentially follow their book counterparts as well.
Bilbo has more to do; he's the moral centerpiece of the movie, doing much the same things he did in the book. There are some very nice emotional moments between Bilbo and Thorin, Bilbo and Gandalf, Dwalin and Thorin, etc.
The action is grand, huge, and evokes some of the better moments from the LOTR battles at its best. Legolas remains King of All Kickassness, Thranduil remains Ice Queen of Middle-Earth, and Dain is surprisingly rad (and funnier than I would've expected).
The movie ends well, and ties together with LOTR in a lovely minor way. My first thought was I wanted to watch FOTR again.
For PtB I asked this:Legolas has significant screen time but I wasn't bothered by it. His character is actually fleshed out a bit more than I expected. His battle antics I find pretty amusing, as I always have. PJ does seem to try to outdo himself with the Legolas Action every movie, and there's several in this one. If you got annoyed by his previous mega-stunts in the other movies, you'll be annoyed by them here. Personally, I find them absurd but fun.
I actually disagree with the reviewers saying Bilbo has little to do. His non-battle screen time seems fairly equal to Thorin's, off the top of my head, and he's the complete moral center of the movie. His actions play out very similar to the book. Even during the battle, where he doesn't have much to do, he's still given a bit of inclusive activity to keep him present (he goes to warn Thorin, Kili, and Fili, who're off fighting on a remote peak, that another wing of Gundabad Orcs are about to ambush them). Certainly he's much more of a presence here than in DOS.
The credits are very similar to ROTK's. I hadn't heard the song before, and it works well as fond nostalgia for all six movies.
Oh, and there's a moment that's totally DUNE.I thought it was great, but it may bother some.
We'll see what if anything he says that adds to what we already have heard.What role do ravens play?