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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:10 pm 
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The new reports are that Flynn's attorney met this morning with Mueller's team, further suggesting that they are attempting to negotiate a plea deal.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael- ... d=51412187

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:25 pm 
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Will anyone here be better off if the GOP passes the tax bill?

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:49 pm 
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Personally, I don't think so. Even if I do get a direct benefit, I'm not sure it's worth the damage that will be done to doctoral programs if the House gets its way.

Nationally, well, Kansas already ran that experiment. They're regretting it.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Faramond is the household accountant, so I can't really answer that question. I think we won't be worse off, for now.

But once those tax cuts expire ( they're still planning on doing that, right? ) and an extra 1.5 trillion is added to the national deficit, we might be a bit worse off. Though what's a ballooning deficit if a Republican administration is running it up? :roll: Such squawking from the budget hawks when the deficit went up under Obama. There are some hawks still squawking I think ( hence the expiration date on the tax cuts ) but the supporting chorus died out.

I mean, what's up with a bigly tax plan, the winningest plan, so much win you guys, if you pretty much admit defeat right off the bat by baking in a sunset clause for the cuts? ( Definitely for personal taxes, last I heard. Probably not for corporate taxes I expect because you really would whomp your economy if you suddenly jack up corporate rates again. )

Also, if the individual mandate is killed, they be able to kill the ADA in pieces for sure, since rates would shoot up as currently healthy people drop coverage. But if any of those guys get sick, they'll be paying through the nose for any coverage to join up, I bet. Also, just don't acquire any pre-existing conditions, people. As we all know, you can avoid those through clean, conservative livin' so if you get 'em it's your fault and you should suffer and die. :roll:

So, right now we won't be hurt. But long term, the damage to doctoral programs, the anticipated cuts in Social Security, the removal of health insurance through unaffordable premiums, all that stuff, will hurt the country as a whole, and that would hurt us too. Quality of life is much wider than just what your personal finances look like.

Here's an analysis article from Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/ ... 1fa2e6c1ee

Here's one from Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11 ... -like.html

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Flynn has apparently reached a plea deal to plead guilty to one count of lying to the FBI. What does the mean for anyone else? Possibly nothing. But I doubt that.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:20 pm 
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The usual Twittering heads are saying this absolutely means there is a deal, and that the information Flynn has given or offered could only be something that incriminates someone above him—which would be Trump, or Pence, or both. If so, obviously, this is huge.

I’m dying to see Trump’s next tweet—though if they’re smart, they’ll have locked up his phone the moment the news broke.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:15 pm 
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Huh. From @AP

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BREAKING: Ex-Trump adviser Michael Flynn admits in plea that Trump transition officials directed his contacts with the Russians.


Dear Lord, please don't let the President start a nuclear war over this.

ETA: Seth Abramson

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70/ Pence was nominally the head of the transition, and Flynn is now saying he was in contact with members of the transition—high-level members—about his conversations with Russia. If Mike Pence was one of them—and he lied about it publicly—he could face Obstruction charges, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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I can't help but feel this is too early. I'm not sure the present Congress would take action even if presented with signed documents from Trump agreeing to help Russian intelligence bring down the US government from the inside.

Though more realistically, I suspect many would be glad of the excuse to turn against him.


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Dave_LF wrote:
I can't help but feel this is too early. I'm not sure the present Congress would take action even if presented with signed documents from Trump agreeing to help Russian intelligence bring down the US government from the inside.

Though more realistically, I suspect many would be glad of the excuse to turn against him.


I agree with your first statement. I would agree with the second, too, if the Pence presidency was assured. If the VP is implicated, I expect the Republicans in Congress to circle the wagons around both him and Trump.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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CNN is reporting that it is Kushner.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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This may eventually lead to something, but the important story today is the Republicans trying to ram through a tax bill without review, analysis, or expert testimony.

MT Senator Tester wrote:
I was just handed a 479-page tax bill a few hours before the vote. One page literally has hand scribbled policy changes on it that can’t be read. This is Washington, D.C. at its worst. Montanans deserve so much better. https://t.co/q6lTpXoXS0


This tweet from Senator Markey has a photo of a scribbled over page. https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/936738897744285698

They are voting today.

President Trump is not half the problem that the GOP Congress is.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454311/mueller-strategy-obstruction-justice-investigation-leading-impeachment

I think this is a pretty good summary of where the investigation into Trump stands.

Bottom line is that the plea deals and charges so far don't make a lot of sense if they're approaching a conspiracy charge.

And legally making a case for obstruction against Trump is probably a long shot.

But finding something worthy of impeachment might not be such a long shot. It all comes back to Trump being a combination of incompetent and arrogant and utterly self-assured that whatever whim he has is presidential.


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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I have some quibbles with that article here and there, but in all essential points I agree with it

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Meanwhile, tomorrow there will be a hearing in New York court on a motion to dismiss filed on Trump's behalf of a lawsuit for defamation filed by Summer Zervos, one of the 16 or so women who accused Trump of sexual assault during the campaign, and were then called lawyers by Trump. If the judge rejects the motion to dismiss and the case goes forward, Ms. Zervos's attorneys are expected to present evidence regarding all of the allegations of sexual misconduct by Trump.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:
Meanwhile, tomorrow there will be a hearing in New York court on a motion to dismiss filed on Trump's behalf of a lawsuit for defamation filed by Summer Zervos, one of the 16 or so women who accused Trump of sexual assault during the campaign, and were then called lawyers by Trump...



I know you work with lawyers all day long, Voronwë, but I think THIS time you meant to say 'liars'... :rofl:

[Resists temptation to make a bad lawyer joke...] 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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The photo below was sent by a friend who was passing through the Moscow airport the other day. The ad is for RT (Russia Today) News news show. I almost said that it's the official Kremlin mouthpiece, but that's redundant. Independent press no longer exists in Russia.
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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Time Person of the Year... not Trump.

http://www.thejournal.ie/time-person-of ... 5-Dec2017/

In fact, Time Person of the year is "Not-Trump"

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That is actually incredibly appropriate on many levels.

Has he tweeted yet?

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I like that cover. *This* is why I keep paying for my subscription to Time.

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Frelga wrote:
Has he tweeted yet?

Did this come out before 3AM?

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