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"The Big Bang Theory Gets a Big Boost"

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If confirmed by subsequent studies, this is a BFD (see VP Biden for an explanation of that acronym).

It's an exciting time to be alive!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... ctab=all_&
A big-bang theory gets a big boost: Evidence that vast cosmos was created in split second

By Joel Achenbach, Monday, March 17, 6:34 PM

In the beginning, the universe got very big very fast, transforming itself in a fraction of an instant from something almost infinitesimally small to something imponderably vast, a cosmos so huge that no one will ever be able to see it all.

This is the premise of an idea called cosmic inflation — a powerful twist on the big-bang theory — and Monday it received a major boost from an experiment at the South Pole called BICEP2. A team of astronomers led by John Kovac of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics announced that it had detected ripples from gravitational waves created in a violent inflationary event at the dawn of time.

“We’re very excited to present our results because they seem to match the prediction of the theory so closely,” Kovac said in an interview. “But it’s the case that science can never actually prove a theory to be true. There could always be an alternative explanation that we haven’t been clever enough to think of.”

The reaction in the scientific community was cautiously exultant. The new result was hailed as potentially one of the biggest discoveries of the past two decades.

Cosmology, the study of the universe on the largest scales, has already been roiled by the 1998 discovery that the cosmos is not merely expanding but doing so at an accelerating rate, because of what has been called “dark energy.” Just as that discovery has implications for the ultimate fate of the universe, this new one provides a stunning look back at the moment the universe was born.

“If real, it’s magnificent,” said Harvard astrophysicist Lisa Randall.

Lawrence Krauss, an Arizona State University theoretical physicist, said of the new result, “It gives us a new window on the universe that takes us back to almost the very beginning of time, allowing us to turn previously metaphysical questions about our origins into scientific ones.”

The measurement, however, is a difficult one. The astronomers chose the South Pole for BICEP2 and earlier experiments because the air is exceedingly dry, almost devoid of water vapor and ideal for observing subtle quirks in the ancient light pouring in from the night sky. They spent four years building the telescope, and then three years observing and analyzing the data. Kovac, 43, who has been to the South Pole 23 times, said of the conditions there, “It’s almost like being in space.”

The BICEP2 instrument sorts through the cosmic microwave background (CMB), looking for polarization of the light in a pattern that reveals the ripples of gravitational waves. The gravitational waves distort space itself, squishing and tugging the fabric of the universe. This is the first time that anyone has announced the detection of gravitational waves from the early universe.

There are other experiments by rival groups trying to detect these waves, and those efforts will continue in an attempt to confirm the results announced Monday.

“I would say it’s very likely to be correct that we are seeing a signal from inflation,” said Adrian Lee, a University of California at Berkeley cosmologist who is a leader of PolarBear, an experiment based on a mountaintop in Chile that is also searching for evidence of inflation. “But it’s such a hard measurement that we really would like to see it measured with different experiments, with different techniques, looking at different parts of the sky, to have confidence that this is really a signal from the beginning of the universe.”

The fact that the universe is dynamic at the grandest scale, and not static as it appears to be when we gaze at the “fixed stars” in the night sky, has been known since the late 1920s, when astronomer Edwin Hubble revealed that the light from galaxies showed that they were moving away from one another.

This led to the theory that the universe, once compact, is expanding. Scientists in recent years have been able to narrow down the age of the universe to about 13.8 billion years. Multiple lines of evidence, including the detection of the CMB exactly 50 years ago, have bolstered the consensus model of modern cosmology, which shows that the universe was initially infinitely hot and dense, literally dimensionless. There was no space, no time.

Then something happened. The universe began to expand and cool. This was the big bang.

Cosmic inflation throws gasoline on that fire. It makes the big bang even bangier right at the start. Instead of a linear expansion, the universe would have undergone an exponential growth.

In 1979, theorist Alan Guth, then at Stanford, seized on a potential explanation for some of the lingering mysteries of the universe, such as the remarkable homogeneity of the whole place — the way distantly removed parts of the universe had the same temperature and texture even though they had never been in contact with each other. Perhaps the universe did not merely expand in a stately manner but went through a much more dramatic, exponential expansion, essentially going from microscopic in scale to cosmically huge in a tiny fraction of a second.

It is unclear how long this inflationary epoch lasted. Kovac calculated that in that first fraction of a second the volume of the universe increased by a factor of 10 to the 26th power, going from subatomic to cosmic.

This is obviously difficult terrain for theorists, and the question of why there is something rather than nothing creeps into realms traditionally governed by theologians. But theoretical physicists say that empty space is not empty, that the vacuum crackles with energy and that quantum physics permits such mind-boggling events as a universe popping up seemingly out of nowhere.

“Inflation — the idea of a very big burst of inflation very early on — is the most important idea in cosmology since the big bang itself,” said Michael Turner, a University of Chicago cosmologist. “If correct, this burst is the dynamite behind our big bang.”

Princeton University astrophysicist David Spergel said after Monday’s announcement, “If true, this has revolutionary impacts for our understanding of the physics of the early universe and gives us insight into physics on really small scales.”

Spergel added, “We will soon know if this result is revolutionary or due to some poorly understood systematics.”

The inflationary model implies that our universe is exceedingly larger than what we currently observe, which is humbling already in its scale. Moreover, the vacuum energy that drove the inflationary process would presumably imply the existence of a larger cosmos, or “multiverse,” of which our universe is but a granular element.

“These ideas about the multiverse become interesting to me only when theories come up with testable predictions based on them,” Kovac said Monday. “The powerful thing about the basic inflationary paradigm is that it did offer us this clear, testable prediction: the existence of gravitational waves which are directly linked to the exponential expansion that’s intrinsic to the theory.”

The cosmological models favored by scientists do not permit us to have contact with other potential universes. The multiverse is, for now, conjectural, because it is not easily subject to experimental verification and is unobservable — from the South Pole or from anywhere else.
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I thought the thread was referring to this (which it sort of is, as the two are related)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... yej-PmSy84

Scientists working with the BICEP2 collaboration at the south pole announced the first clear sign of gravitational waves, found in maps of the earliest light emitted after the big bang.
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Impenitent wrote:I thought the thread was referring to this (which it sort of is, as the two are related)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... yej-PmSy84

Scientists working with the BICEP2 collaboration at the south pole announced the first clear sign of gravitational waves, found in maps of the earliest light emitted after the big bang.
Yes - the article I posted refers to BICEP2 as well. Am I missing something?
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No, just two different articles, each offering some different details. :D
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Helloooo Inanna from a parallel universe.... :wave:
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Was any of this really discovery? I'm no cosmologist, but it sounds like when all is said and done, the whole thing amounts to confirming an idea(failing to disprove an idea) that everyone was already pretty sure about. Which is a great thing to do, but if there's nothing more to it and it still qualifies as the biggest discovery of the last 20 years, then we really need some sort of technological breakthrough so we can start discovering new things.
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There's a lot more to it than confirming an idea. The possibilities this opens up could lead to an understanding of what dark matter and dark energy are, for example, and how they formed. Now that this major branch is firmed up, cosmologists can crawl out farther along it looking for twigs they've never seen before. :P

This isn't the kind of breakthrough that leads directly to new technology—the energies they were looking at existed for a split instant, just at the very beginning of the Big Bang, and don't exist anywhere now.

However, a hint at solving troublesome mysteries such as why the cosmos looks pretty much identical when you study it in one direction and then in the complete opposite direction—why the distribution of mass and energy isn't chaotic—has a value all its own.

Plus on Friday we were only sure the universe was the size of what we can see, about 28 billion light years across. Now we have good reason to believe that universe is only a tiny fraction of the real one—light just hasn't had time to reach us from anything farther away, but very likely everything we can see is a speck of dust compared to the real expanse. Add in that there are probably infinitely many other universes just as large, boiling in and out of existence all around our own, and I for one want to sit inside for a while with the blinds down. . . . :D
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Stolen from the Geeks thread in Bag End (thanks, Lali!):
Lalaith wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA#t=10

Delivering the news of possible confirmation of the inflation model of the Big Bang Theory to the physicist who predicted it....

Pretty awesome! :D
It is indeed. :D
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Primula Baggins wrote:Plus on Friday we were only sure the universe was the size of what we can see, about 28 billion light years across. Now we have good reason to believe that universe is only a tiny fraction of the real one—light just hasn't had time to reach us from anything farther away, but very likely everything we can see is a speck of dust compared to the real expanse. Add in that there are probably infinitely many other universes just as large, boiling in and out of existence all around our own, and I for one want to sit inside for a while with the blinds down. . . . :D
The leap from very very large universe to parallel universes is something I have not been able to comprehend...
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I hate the term "multiple universes." "The universe" is defined to mean everything that is. They should say multiple spacetimes or multiple cosmos or something.
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Agreed. The problem is that in practice, "universe" has come to be associated with an understanding of the characteristics of this particular expanding thing we live in. Multiple universes, or the more commonly-used term among theoretical physicists "multiverse" is used to differentiate this thing we live in, with its very specific laws and forces, with other things, that may have very different laws and forces.

In other words "the universe" has morphed into a formal noun to describe a very specific type of cosmos.

But I agree, and think we should simply change our terminology, calling the place we live in one "verse" in the "universe."

There's a poetic quality to that too, wouldn't you say? :) Much better than multi-cosmos, or other cumbersome terms.
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It sounds like saying they discovered that their Unicycle had multiple wheels.....
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Calling it the "'verse" makes me want to watch Firefly. Again. :D
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Primula Baggins wrote:Calling it the "'verse" makes me want to watch Firefly. Again. :D
Stop it. I have no time for a TV binge.

P.S. Too late. :)
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Passdagas the Brown wrote:But I agree, and think we should simply change our terminology, calling the place we live in one "verse" in the "universe."

There's a poetic quality to that too, wouldn't you say? :) Much better than multi-cosmos, or other cumbersome terms.
Holy cow; yes. They should seriously do that.

Aside from the poetic quality, it is consistent with the original sense of the word which was "the unity of all diversity."
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It's only thirteen episodes. ("Waffair theen!") :twisted:
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(I can't watch Firefly cause then I get too angry it got cancelled. :x :x :x :x :x :x )
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I'm too glad it exists for that to happen. :love: And there's always the movie. With Chiwetel Ejiofor playing the heavy, I should note for those who may not realize that we geeks knew him when.

The cosmology—I should say, the astrophysics—of the show would bother me greatly if it were anything less than what it is.

Returning to topic, from a science fictional standpoint, the recent news is just too . . . cosmic to offer anything to hang a story on. Too large a scale.
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I'm a little surpised that there's not more science fiction surrounding the concept of a multiverse. Very rich story-telling possibilities there.
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From my perspective (as a relative rookie writer, but a lifelong reader), stories that are too BIG dwarf their characters and lose a lot of interest.

And there's the interactivity problem—apparently it's utterly impossible for any information (matter, energy, or a signal of any kind) to pass between universes. Not just "we don't have the technology" impossible, but physical impossibility.

Not to mention, even if it were possible, what would a universe with different physical laws and different constants such as c and e look like? Could something from our universe even exist there? Would matter itself even exist there? For many values of those constants, I've read, it would not. The anthropic principle strikes again.

I'm sticking to the galactic or possibly intergalactic scale. That's quite preposterously large enough for any story I can conceive (probably too large). :P:
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