Norwegian Terrorism

Post by **Ornendil** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:45 pm

I'd just like to point out that the "self-defense" thing was a mistranslation. What he actually claimed was "principle of necessity". Most of the arguments made here still apply, though.

I don't see the problem with having a long, thorough trial in this case. Many people want to see his defense torn to shreds (as is happening according to friends who've been at the trial, and the media seems to agree). Having any poor reasoning or weaknesses of his exposed satisfies our lust for revenge, without compromising the process. It's better than bottling up all the anger or taking it out on each other. It's a tough few weeks for a lot of people, but I think it's an effective way to get it out of our system.

Post by **Primula Baggins** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:54 am

Thanks, Ornendil. It's great to have your perspective in this discussion.

Post by **Ghân-buri-Ghân** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:00 am

Post by **axordil** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:36 am

Very much appreciated, Ornendil.

Post by **Ghân-buri-Ghân** » Wed May 02, 2012 1:30 am

Ornendil wrote:I'd just like to point out that the "self-defense" thing was a mistranslation. What he actually claimed was "principle of necessity". Most of the arguments made here still apply, though.

I don't see the problem with having a long, thorough trial in this case. Many people want to see his defense torn to shreds (as is happening according to friends who've been at the trial, and the media seems to agree). Having any poor reasoning or weaknesses of his exposed satisfies our lust for revenge, without compromising the process. It's better than bottling up all the anger or taking it out on each other. It's a tough few weeks for a lot of people, but I think it's an effective way to get it out of our system.

I would be interested to see how those who have lambasted the Norwegian process respond to Ornendil's Norwegian perspective. Is the Breivik trial a "mockery"? If so, how so?
Perhaps it really would be better to take a step back and recognize that, unlike the baying wolves that are substitutes for justice in purportedly "civilized" societies, Norway actually engages fully in a judicial process. A lesson for the hubristically impaired, perhaps?