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News Corp. contributes $1 million each to U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Republican Governors Association
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Good for NewsCorps.

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Meanwhile (though not specifically to do with Fox being most trusted):
http://www.gallup.com/poll/143267/Distr ... -High.aspx
For the fourth straight year, the majority of Americans say they have little or no trust in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly. The 57% who now say this is a record high by one percentage point.
Nearly half of Americans (48%) say the media are too liberal, tying the high end of the narrow 44% to 48% range recorded over the past decade. One-third say the media are just about right while 15% say they are too conservative.
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On election night FOX beats CNN, MSNBC and the Big Three (ABC, NBC and CBS) in ratings:
http://www.deadline.com/2010/11/fox-new ... e-ratings/
Meanwhile:
"Results Are In And Many Agree: Fox News Offered More Balanced Election Coverage Than MSNBC"
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/results-are- ... han-msnbc/

In MSNBC related news, the latter day Edward R. Murrow, Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, has been indefinitely suspended without pay for contributing money to Democrat candidates in violation of NBC rules.
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But . . . FOX is mainstream media. It's part of probably the biggest media congomerate in the world.
Dig deeper.
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I feel obliged to point out that the only reason the same thing hasn't happened to a lot of the talking heads at Fox News is that Fox News has no such policy. Hannity and others donate openly to Republican candidates and in fact help them fundraise on the air during their shows (letting them give their website addresses and ask for donations from viewers).

Keith Olbermann is in trouble because there was a policy to violate. I'm not defending him, just pointing out the lower standards at Fox.
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Infidel wrote:In MSNBC related news, the latter day Edward R. Murrow, Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, has been indefinitely suspended without pay for contributing money to Democrat candidates in violation of NBC rules.
Just to be correct, he was suspended not for making the contributions, but for failing to clear them first with NBC news. I'd be curious to know whether Fox News has a similar rule. And, of course, it should be pointed out that Fox News itself has donated literally millions to Republican candidates.

In addition, it is my personal opinion that it is insulting Edward R. Murrow's memory to refer to Keith Olbermann as "latter day Edward R. Murrow."
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I felt certain it was snark, Voronwë. I sometimes watch Olbermann's show but would never call him that in a million years.

Edit: Link to Sean Hannity's recent political contributions.
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Primula Baggins wrote:I feel obliged to point out that the only reason the same thing hasn't happened to a lot of the talking heads at Fox News is that Fox News has no such policy. Hannity and others donate openly to Republican candidates and in fact help them fundraise on the air during their shows (letting them give their website addresses and ask for donations from viewers).
As does MSNBC:
MSNBC Pres. Asks For Examples Of On-Air Fund-raising; Inevitably, Examples Found
http://www.mediaite.com/online/msnbc-pr ... les-found/
Keith Olbermann is in trouble because there was a policy to violate. I'm not defending him, just pointing out the lower standards at Fox.
Olbermann's Got Company -- Hannity & Scarborough Donated, Too![Scarborough is on MSNBC]
however:
News Corp policy does permit employees to make donations in a personal capacity. Fox News has long said it considers Hannity, similar to Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck, a host not a news anchor or journalist. A search of federal campaign disclosures found no Fox News on-air journalists such as Shepard Smith to have made contributions or donations.
http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-pos ... -too-22312
Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:Just to be correct, he was suspended not for making the contributions, but for failing to clear them first with NBC news. I'd be curious to know whether Fox News has a similar rule.

See above.
And, of course, it should be pointed out that Fox News itself has donated literally millions to Republican candidates.
Link?
In addition, it is my personal opinion that it is insulting Edward R. Murrow's memory to refer to Keith Olbermann as "latter day Edward R. Murrow."

Snark based on Olbermann using Murrow's tag line of 'good night and good luck'. Though Olbermann did win an Edward R. Murrow Award.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080446/
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See the first post on this page.
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Primula Baggins wrote:See the first post on this page.
For what?
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See this post, which is at the top of this page, for the following link:
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Yes I saw that, and as I said in response to it, good for News Corp.

However, I wanted a link subtantiating Voronwë's statement that "Fox News itself has donated literally millions to Republican candidates" (Fox News is merely a subsidiary of News Corp). Then perhaps we can see how much Fox itself has donated to Democrats as well, and draw a camparison with the others.

Although, if what Voronwë actually meant was News Corp has donated millions to Republicans, then it should be pointed out (to borrow a phrase), that News Corp & subsidiaries associated donations total over 11 million dollars since 1989, and they have favored Democrats by 58% to 41% per the latest FEC data.
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Olbermann's punishment will have consisted of having a 4 day weekend forced upon him, and he will be back tomorrow:
http://www.nbcuniversal.presscentre.com ... ClientID=7

Youtube video of MSNBC's Rachel Maddoe ('we are not a political operation, Fox is') decrying Fox News for letting candidates try to raise funds ('those nickles and dimes') on the air, interspersed with clips of candidates doing exactly the samething on MSNBC (including Maddow's show):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjXBx9- ... r_embedded
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Infidel wrote:Olbermann's punishment will have consisted of having a 4 day weekend forced upon him, and he will be back tomorrow
Why bother. This is a classic case of trying to have your cake and eat it too on the part of NBC. Rather disappointing, to put it mildly.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:
Infidel wrote:Olbermann's punishment will have consisted of having a 4 day weekend forced upon him, and he will be back tomorrow
Why bother. This is a classic case of trying to have your cake and eat it too on the part of NBC. Rather disappointing, to put it mildly.
I'm interested in how it first came out, since the usual campaign finance sites don't have Olbermann's donations listed even yet, nor could I find it in a FEC search (though those are more difficult).
Maybe a publicity stunt of some sort.
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Politico reported it.
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Yes, and Politico says "POLITICO discovered the Olbermann donation to Grijalva in a Federal Election Commission filing". But an FEC search using "Olbermann" only turns up a donation to Ron Paul by someone named John Olbermann from Florida in 07.
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It wouldn't surprise me if Politico was being less than honest about the source of their information.
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