Arrested for public intoxication in a bar

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Arrested for public intoxication in a bar

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This story first appeared on our local news on March 17.

Link (has video of the story)

It's come on the news again tonight. Link

Local law officials and the TABC have been placing undercover officers in bars to monitor the patrons. In one night, 30 people were arrested for public intoxication whilst in a bar. The law officials say this is to help decrease the DWI (Drinking While Intoxicated) incidents.

This makes me absolutely livid, especially after some more information was reported tonight. Apparently some of the arrested individuals were arrested in a hotel bar and they were actually staying at that hotel which means they were more than likely NOT going to be doing any driving. I'd be willing to bet that they took advantage of the fact they didn't have to drive and drank more because they could.

The law officials say going out and having some drinks isn't a problem, but they will arrest you if you are dangerous to others. Now when I watched the video, I saw people who could walk themselves about without stumbling, could talk easily, weren't being violent...just normal people out having a fun time. It aggravates me so much that these people were arrested before actually doing anything bad. Unfortunately under Texas law, public intoxication is illegal, but I think arresting people in a bar is going too far. According to the law officials I would get arrested if I went out with my husband and got drunk even though he would have been my designated driver. How absolutely absurd!

To me, this really does seems like arresting someone before they commit a crime since the law officials are doing this to curb DWI rates. If they wanted to do this, they need to arrest people who were actually going to drive. They should put the undercover officers in the bar to monitor people and radio officers outside whenever an enebriated person exits the bar. Once the person starts his or her car and actually starts to drive it, then arrest the person.

This just seems like prohibition going too far. :rage: People should have the right to get drunk as long as they don't hurt someone else.
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You're right, Eru, that is infuriating. :x
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You mean there are states with more backwards laws than Missouri! :shock:

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Local law officials
You mean the revenue enhancement squad.
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That's absolutely ridiculous. :shock: Really over the top.

Just this morning, I read a discussion about this on another site, and that's what practically everybody else said as well.
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It sounds like the policing equivalent of stealing candy from babies or shooting fish in a barrel. Nice to know that the jails are that empty.
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How long has this law been in effect? Can bar owners do anything about this? You'd think it would hurt their business.
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It sounds like yet another case of people conflating "anti-drunk driving" with "anti-drinking". Has TABC been talking to MADD and SADD, or merely channeling them?
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Wilma wrote:How long has this law been in effect?
I don't know.
Can bar owners do anything about this?
Appeal to their congressman/woman to get the law changed....and that's not likely to happen.
You'd think it would hurt their business.
It very well may affect the hotels. Conventions aren't going to want to go to a city where the people attending can easily be arrested. Better to go to Las Vegas or some place more tolerable.

This made the Today Show this morning. Public outrage is getting pretty noisy around here.
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I'm not sure that the law is the problem. Most jurisdictions have laws against public intoxication. It sounds like it's the way the law is being enforced that is the problem
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According to the judges and attorneys that have been interviewed, the law officials aren't doing anything wrong. :|
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Most jurisdictions have laws against public intoxication.
Bars are "public"?
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Most bars are public and fall under local jurisdiction. They have to apply for liquor licenses etc from the town or city.
Some places like the Elks, Knights of Columbus etc are private clubs and have a different set of laws they have to follow.
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yovargas wrote:
Most jurisdictions have laws against public intoxication.
Bars are "public"?
<wonders whether he really wants to go there :upsidedown:>

Bars would certainly be considered "public accommodations" which, as Holby has already pointed out, are subject to a higher degree of regulation then a private club like the Elk's Lodge. I'm sure you recall our discussion about regulating smoking in a bar, which I strongly support. But interpreting public intoxication laws to allow law enforcement to arrest people for nothing more then having a few drinks in a bar (without any evidence that they are disturbing the peace, threatening harm to themselves or others or otherwise breaking the law) strains the limits of credulity, in my not so humble professional opinion.
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