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Guess it's not too early to start one, since we already have so much to anticipate from the last EE...

Not least the funeral:

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I wonder if there will be anything as radically different from the TE as Dol Guldur was in DoS.

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I still have not seen the EEs for "AUJ" and "DOS". The plan is to see all three EEs next year (not in one turn, but over a week or so).

Interestingly, there is a line by Bilbo in the theatrical version of BOFA which makes it perfectly okay that there is no funeral in the film (and I am writing this as someone who specifically looked forward to the funeral scene).


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Interesting.

I've always considered Thorin's funeral a likely candidate for an extended edition, so I'm not at all disappointed by the news that it isn't in the TE. As I have said before, it is his exchange with Bilbo before he dies that is crucial (and, PtB, I always knew they would include that).

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I suspect that if they include the Funeral, Bilbo's words with Thorin may be held back for that.

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How could that be, as it is Thorin who says the most important line?

ETA: I must be misunderstanding you, having not yet seen the film.

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Elentári wrote:
Guess it's not too early to start one, since we already have so much to anticipate from the last EE...

Not least the funeral:


Thanks for that pic Elen - it looks great. I fully expect the EE to be the great film we were hoping for.

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:
How could that be, as it is Thorin who says the most important line?

ETA: I must be misunderstanding you, having not yet seen the film.


I mean that the conversation may take place in the halls of Erebor before the funeral, as in the book.

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Oh, okay.

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This scene between Bofur and Bilbo didn't make it into the TE...I wonder if it will be reinstated for the EE, though it is rather an echo of their conversation in the Goblin cave in AUJ:

http://www.hitfix.com/news/the-hobbits-martin-freeman-on-being-bilbo-and-benedict-cumberbatch-as-smaug/2

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Despite the massive scale of the trilogy - "The Hobbit" is by far the biggest
endeavor of his career, budget-wise - it is in the film's smaller, more
dialogue-driven scenes that Freeman feels truly at home. As an example he brings
up a scene in which Bilbo must conceal the fact that he has pocketed the Arkenstone
- a precious gem found during the raid on the Lonely Mountain that
the hobbit is planning to use as leverage for a peace deal between the dwarves
and the devastated residents of Lake-town - from the dwarf Bofur (played by
James Nesbitt).

"Bofur intimates that, 'I know you want to leave us
because we're having a f***** great battle tomorrow. So if you want to slip
away, I won't tell anybody.' But he doesn't know that Bilbo's got the Arkenstone
and Bilbo is going to slip away, but not out of cowardice but because he wants
to go and negotiate a peace between the [dwarves and the residents of
Lake-town]," says Freeman.

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I think it would make a great scene precisely because it echoes the earlier one. Bilbo appears to be doing the same thing as last time, but the viewer knows better and can consider how far he's actually come...


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And right on cue we have Philippa Boyens on the EMPIRE podcast, talking about what to expect in the EE (There are more goodbyes after the battle, and Dain inherits the dwarf empire. More Bard and the three Elven Rings)

http://www.empireonline.com/podcast/ [language warning if anyone listens to this at work]

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:
How could that be, as it is Thorin who says the most important line?

ETA: I must be misunderstanding you, having not yet seen the film.


I mean that the conversation may take place in the halls of Erebor before the funeral, as in the book.


PB makes it pretty clear that that won't happen. [ETA: in the Empire podcast that Elen posted]

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Interview with Joe Letteri...confirmation that the chariot scene from the trailer will be in the EE!

http://collider.com/joe-letteri-the-hobbit-batman-v-superman-interview/


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Joe Letteri Time Index:
:11 – Have they been having conversations about the next Apes movie yet?
1:15 – Says they’re already working on the extended cut of The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies. One sequence in particular is a chariot scene on the ice that was glimpsed in the trailer.
2:36 – Has he heard anything about even more deleted scenes from The Lord of the Rings?
3:54 – Talks about advances in technology and what they’re working to make better.
4:58 – Has there been a time when a director has come to them and they’ve had to say they couldn’t do it? Says the closest they came was Avatar.
5:55 – Talks about the Avatar sequels.
6:50 – Says Avatar 2, 3, and 4 will be the most ambitious thing they ever tried.
8:00 – How long do people at Weta normally sign on for? Are they on for the entirety of a certain project?
9:07 – With regards to underwater motion-capture, he says they haven’t put someone in a tank just yet.
9:25 – Talks Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Says they’re working on a sequence in the film that’s self-contained—it wasn’t the sequence that was shown at Comic-Con.
10:50 – What other projects are they doing? Says they’re working on the Maze Runner sequel, Spectral, and a bit of work on Fantastic Four.
11:25 – Says productions don’t really shoot VFX-heavy sequences early in the schedule anymore, which used to give the VFX houses more time to work on the effects.
12:27 – What has he seen recently that really impressed him? Talks about the integration of lighting in Gravity.
13:15 – Is he able to watch VFX-heavy films and just enjoy the story, or is he focused on the technology aspect of it?
13:50 – Talks about the superhero genre and what he likes about it.
15:08 – The future of motion-capture technology. Talks about what they learned on Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and what they’ve been pushing for in terms of capture.
17:03 – Talks about the collaboration process with Peter Jackson on The Hobbit movies. Says they created 150+ characters for The Battle of the Five Armies.
18:45 – Talks about their server farms. Say they refresh and upgrade once or twice a year.

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Embarrassingly, I forgot that we had this thread, and started a new one to post that very link (which I then deleted when I saw that not only did we already still have such a thread, but that you had posted about the Letteri interview in it already).

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We should probably mention that RA also confirms that the funeral (with the arkenstone) will be in the EE in his Empire podcast, not that we had any doubt of it.

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I'm disappointed to hear that the chariot scene is in. The last thing this EE needs is more OTT action scenes on Ravenhill (judging by the trailer, the chariot scene takes place thereabouts). If anything, that whole part of the film could use some serious editing down. I hope they spend more time on either character scenes, or on the main part of the battle (outside Dale), which was very undercooked.

Also, it seemed clear from the trailers that the Iron Hill dwarves actually attack Thranduil's army with ballista weapons, and that Thranduil's armies responds with a volley of arrows. This would have to happen before the were-worms turn up. Any indication that this will be reinstated in the EE?


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Philippa Boyens continues to be one of the most frustrating people associated with these films to me. The absolutism with which she declares that certain things "cannot be done on film" is so misguided (and unimaginative), that I can't help but squirm through the entirety of her interviews (including this one with Empire). As someone who is cinematically/ visually-minded, and a fan of Tolkien, I just can't listen to her for very long before wanting to take a shower. Her vision is so restricted, and she is so contemptuous of alternative modes of storytelling, that I have to wonder what exactly she is doing in the creative arts...

I'd much rather listen to Peter Jackson's child-like giddiness about his work, which to me, seems far more genuine.


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