The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

[Passdagas the Brown]

I don't mind it much either, to be honest.

It's just the execution of the warg-Radagast chase scene that is so abysmal, IMO. As is the concept of the scene itself...

[Voronwë the Faithful]

You have a lot of company in disliking that scene, but I like its randomness.

[Passdagas the Brown]

Sometimes I wish I was you.

[Passdagas the Brown]

Question: In one of those new TV spots, Gandalf tells Thranduil "The dwarves were never meant to reach the mountain."

Why does he say this, when in the film-verse, he had explicitly encouraged both Thorin and his father to do just that? Is he lying to Thranduil?

This got me thinking about other inconsistencies. Watching the DOS EE again the other day made me wonder why Gandalf was so surprised that Thorin and company were being tracked by wargs in AUJ (remember the "Who did you tell??? line), when the DOS prologue makes it clear that Thorin has a price on his head, and that Gandalf knows it.

Lastly, why was the Arkenstone not mentioned as an objective of the quest in AUJ?

Are these inconsistencies primarily the result of late script revisions? I haven't listened to any of the commentaries (as they're not available in the digital download), so I imagine some of these questions may be answered there.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

It's definitely a mystery! Hopefully it will make some sort of sense in context.

Edit: This was in response to the comment/question about Gandalf's comment about the dwarves not being meant to enter Erebor.

[Frelga]

I draw the line at crossed-eyed smoking.

That is totally a pot-bellied pig. I... don't know how I feel about it. I think they should have given him a Mangalitsa or a Duroc.

I thought Gandalf's comment meant that Sauron/Necromancer did not mean for the dwarves to reach Erebor, hence the sending of Azog.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

That is totally a pot-bellied pig.

Yes, but I'm not convinced that it is an accurate representation of what it will actually look like in the film.

[Passdagas the Brown]

I'd love to see some sample comments about it from "elsewhere," but I can't access their MB. Care to share some?

[Voronwë the Faithful]

"Dain looks awesome, no doubt about it. But that little runt of a "boar" is absolutely PATHETIC! I am surprised the little piglet doesn't break its legs under Dain's weight, that critter is so darn tiny. I expected Dain to come charging in on a massive, tusked BEAST, trampling orcs and tossing them into the wind...NOT on this ridiculous runt of the litter. What is PJ thinking?! Can someone please tell me that this is an early piece of unused concept art and not the real thing... "

"looks like the pig is wearing sunglasess and smiling"

"I was kinda hoping for a big-ass boar with huge tusks. Not what seems to be a pot-bellied pig"

"Why is everyone praising this design? IT LOOKS TERRIBLE! The friggin boar is TINY, smaller than Dain himself, and wholly unintimidating....How in the heck is Dain supposed to trample orcs with that little piglet? Please tell me this is some early prototype of concept art and not the final product... "

"Will save final judgment after I saw it moving.... but in this picture the pig is all kinds of horrible. "

"That pig is a runt, I expect Dain to be riding a massive beast with huge tusks, not an ugly little piglet that looks like its wearing sunglasses... "

Etc.

[Passdagas the Brown]

Gotta love elsewhere.

[Elentári]

It's definitely a mystery! Hopefully it will make some sort of sense in context.

Edit: This was in response to the comment/question about Gandalf's comment about the dwarves not being meant to enter Erebor.

Yup, agree with Frelga....I think Gandalf's words are referring to Sauron's plans...HE meant to stop Thorin via Azog, before he got anywhere near the Lonely Mountain...

[Elentári]

As for the pig-saga....maybe this is the "buffoonery" regarding Dain alluded to in the Frodo-spoilers previously?

Meanwhile, there are scans of three new magazine interviews/article up on the Heirs of Durin website...

SFX Magazine, SciFiNow and FilmInk

[Elentári]

Cover #4 Bard!

[Voronwë the Faithful]

It's definitely a mystery! Hopefully it will make some sort of sense in context.

Edit: This was in response to the comment/question about Gandalf's comment about the dwarves not being meant to enter Erebor.

Yup, agree with Frelga....I think Gandalf's words are referring to Sauron's plans...HE meant to stop Thorin via Azog, before he got anywhere near the Lonely Mountain...

That makes sense.

Have you read those articles at Dark Jackal's site? Anything worthwhile?

ETA: I see that some pretty woman elsewhere said "further confirmation it was the Studio that asked for the Love-triangle, in the FilmInk article...


Lilly says that there was no triangle in Principal Photography, then the suits watched the rough cut and said they were confused about what was happening with the characters (Legolas, Tauriel, Kili) so they realized they (I paraphrase) needed to make the storyline less subtle to come over better... "

[Elentári]

Yes, very good interviews with MF, RA and LE in all of them...no real spoilers

One thing that jumps out from the FilmInk article is Lilly explaining more about the Studio's involvement in the "Love-triangle"...

And EMPIRE cover #5 - the Orcs!

[Elentári]

Latest TV Spot, for those who might not remember Jackson also gave us LotR...

[sauronsfinger]

The pig looks weak. Not fierce enough and from that angle at least it looks rather smallish. Even the flatulent creature in THE LION KING looked a bit fiercer with his tusks than this does and that character was a complete joke.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Latest TV Spot, for those who might not remember Jackson also gave us LotR...

That's just plain weird.

[Frelga]

The pig doesn't bother me. It's a bit of an offbeat choice, given how fierce a pig can look. Possibly they didn't want the good guys riding something that looked worse than a warg?

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Some images, including the auction. And what is that Balin is writing?

http://bilbo-le-hobbit-facebook.blogspo ... nt-un.html

Also, I don't think it has been posted here that there will be a screening in Wellington at the same time as the London world premier:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/ ... d-premiere

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1411/S ... rilogy.htm