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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:25 am 
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I see PtB is in "Peter Jackson is a uneducated buffoon-Alfonso Cuarón is a genius" mode again. :halo:

I would say Jackson is very good at reaching emotional heights, the problem with "The Hobbit" for some, however, is that he does not try often enough to do so.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:27 am 
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My fault; I gave him the opening.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:05 am 
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I actually like Peter Jackson a lot, and find his fertile imagination to be quite infectious. He clearly loves his craft and pursues it, and that's an admirable thing.

But I also think he's an uneducated buffoon compared to Cuaron, who's a genius. :)

And I disagree that PJ is good at reaching emotional heights. Whenever a scene is emotional by its very nature (Gandalf's fall, Boromir's fall, Frodo's return from Mordor, etc) he ends up milking it for all it's worth, blaring the trumpets, shredding the heart strings like a heavy metal guitarist, and beating the drums until they break. He doesn't trust the story, and doesn't trust his audience to respond to the emotional core of the story, and so he piles on the melodrama to make sure you get the point.

IMO, there was a lot more genuine emotion in AUJ and DOS than there was in the three LOTR films combined. That doesn't make the former better. But I did get the sense that this time, PJ was more comfortable with himself, and didn't feel the need to cake on the layers of "faux-motion," as I've heard someone describe it.

That said, he did get some heavy emotional beats right in LOTR. The Frodo and Sam stuff on the slopes of Mt. Doom, and Théoden by Theodred's grave, being the best examples.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:38 pm 
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Would I be right in saying that the extended editions will not be made available in 3D?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:34 pm 
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No, the extended editions are in fact available in 3D.

Here is the Amazon.com link for the recently realized DoS EE in 3D:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Hobbit-Desola ... B00MG4OXWO

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:47 pm 
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Ah, thanks!

I wonder why I couldn't find it before :scratch:

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:46 am 
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I did a search on Amazon.ca and it only came up with the 2D version. Perhaps that is why?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:33 am 
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Some of you may remember TheHutt produced a beautiful booklet for the AUJ EE BR and DVD since WB neglected to do so...

He has now finished a similar project for Desolation of Smaug. The link below offers free downloads of both BR and DVD versions, as well as the original AUJ booklets if you missed them the first time. (Scroll down the page for the English versions)

http://www.henneth-annun.ru/index.php/dilogiya-hobbit/hobbit-proekt-nezhdannyiy-buklet/#eng

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:48 pm 
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I can now see more why my favorite scene is so good.

(Who can guess what I am referring to. [Not the golden statue, so don't guess that, much as I appreciate it.])

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:06 pm 
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The barrels?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:58 pm 
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Nope.

I see the barrels as a fun, though ridiculous, action scene. Hardly favorite scen material in my book, though of course othe tastes vary.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:54 pm 
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Thorin and Balin entering the back door?

If not, I will simply take this opportunity to reiterate that its one of my favorite scenes across all five films.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:59 pm 
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I knew you would get it. I had absolutely no doubt at all.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:09 am 
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Have you seen the portion of the appendices where they talk about that scene, and the set that they used? Impressive stuff.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:40 am 
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Yes. All in all, I loved this set of appendices (and was impressed by PJ's process).


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I'm just getting a chance now to work through them, and I very much agree thus far.

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I split off the discussion about the Beacons.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:41 am 
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So I watched the EE with the voice over commentary, and can boil it down to PJ's two main self-professed motives:
1. Make things less boring by adding constant tension in the form of relentless orc attacks.
2. Give Legolas the job of finding more and more creative ways to kill them.

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Does anybody know if it's possible to rent this online somehow?

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