Peter Jackson Hates Railings

Post by **Alatar** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:11 pm

You won't like the Goblinkings song so! Although I think Bofur's works quite well (apart from it being a hobbit song that is).

Post by **yovargas** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:39 pm

I probably wouldn't like it if I did watch it which I'm not planning to so my opinion on that will remain irrelevant.

Post by **Sunsilver** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:05 pm

The Misty Mountains song at Bag End was THE highlight of the Bag End scene. And the cleaning up scene, including the song, is pretty much STRAIGHT out of the book! I was so happy to see Jackson include it!

The scenes I hated were the stone giants, Goblintown (all the bridges and walkways falling down) and all the shenanigans at the end. Jackson has Important Characters hanging or falling from dangerous heights SO many times in his films that eventually it's just a big yawn, along with an eyeroll, or two, or three, depending on how long the scene goes on. As if Blbo is going to fall over the edge of a cliff, or Aragorn be killed in a fall...

And while we're on the subject, the fall I still hate the most (after Aragorn's dive) was Denethor! Doing that scene the way it was done in the book would have been SO much more effective, in my opinion!

Post by **Elentári** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:34 pm

Sunsilver wrote:And while we're on the subject, the fall I still hate the most (after Aragorn's dive) was Denethor! Doing that scene the way it was done in the book would have been SO much more effective, in my opinion!

Yup - I still don't know how Jackson could have resisted a close-up on the Arnor stone showing Denethor's withered hands wreathed in flames!

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:52 pm

Elentári wrote:yes, I would say the complaints about set up are referring mainly to the Prologue, which delayed the start of the story proper - it was an interminable age before we met MF. Can you imagine what it's going to be like with the cut bits of the prologue added back in on the EE! Probably nearer 15 minutes before we get to "60 years earlier..."

I felt Old Bilbo/Frodo sequence was the proverbial straw, and really should have been cut dramatically. There's a lot to said for spreading out the back story, and dealing it out in small portions - the fan edit I saw does this very well by inserting it in smaller chunks within Bag End, as it is in the book, of course...

Interestingly, I have never found the FotR prologue so protracted, somehow.

Have to disagree. The prologue, and the Bag End scenes, are for me the only sequences that give you a sense of actually being in a real place with real people that have real problems. That includes the Bilbo-Frodo scenes (I really like the "unsociable" bit, followed by Bilbo's denial, then followed by him creating a "no admittance" sign for his gate! Very funny, IMO).

Once PJ gets on the road, it becomes a straight "monsters are after us, RUN!" kind of theme park ride, and I actually find myself wishing that the whole film took place in the Shire!

Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:54 pm

I'm in a hotel room a block from Fenway. We turned on the TV and to my surprise, the Trollshaws scenes was on, so we watched to the end. Beth's comment was that there was lot's of great stuff, but too many fight scenes messing it up. I had to agree.

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:56 pm

And there is more in the EE.

Post by **Impenitent** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:59 am

Is the EE out yet?

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:05 am

Impenitent wrote:Is the EE out yet?

Yes. The digital download is available via iTunes.

Post by **Impenitent** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:41 am

Ah. Digital download will not do. I require a pretty box for my HD DVD/BluRay.

Post by **Primula Baggins** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:52 am

So do I. Fortunately it's just in time for my birthday. <goes off to nudge Mr. Prim with a large pointy stick>

Post by **axordil** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:46 pm

To return to the original statement:

Anyone who doesn't understand why there are no railings in PJ's work should drive around NZ for a few weeks. Guardrails are an endangered species there. It's a cultural thing.

Post by **Dave_LF** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:54 pm

How many wizards need to die before they learn?

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:34 am

Dave_LF wrote:How many wizards need to die before they learn?

Handrails, you fools!

Post by **Passdagas the Brown** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:29 am

"You Shall Not Pass Comfortably!"

Post by **narya** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:33 am

Sorry if this video has already been mentioned. I've been avoiding these threads for the most part, to minimize spoilerization. And please note that there are multiple bleeped out F* words in this video. This guy noticed the lack of handrails and physics in the Hobbit as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LDhsH79jAY
Everything Wrong with the Hobbit AUJ in 4 minutes or less.