The Hunt for Gollum - Fanmade

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The Hunt for Gollum - Fanmade

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I have to say I love the look of this. A lot of care has gone in to make it look and sound like the New Line Movies, and the Soundtrack is very Howard Shore inspired. Premieres for free online on May 3rd!

Link: http://www.thehuntforgollum.com/film.htm

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The Forgotten People of Arnor
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Also, a more ambitious film based on the bloodline of Aragorn:

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Wow, the production values look unbelievable. That's some expensive-looking fan-fic!
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Just thought I'd point out that there is already a thread on this that Brian started, Al, further down the page.

It could do with bumping to reminder everyone of the imminent release ;)
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I just saw that Elen, but it was mostly about the legalities involved. I think its worth a fresh thread, since its seems pretty unlikely that its gonna get stopped at this stage. Besides, bumping that one now would just give us 2 threads at the top to choose from ;)
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Yeah. I could combine the two threads, but I don't think it would be worth the effort that it would take.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:Yeah. I could combine the two threads, but I don't think it would be worth the effort that it would take.
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I agree with everyone.

Hope to watch the trailers soon. I don't get much time in my office these days, but the puppy's about ready to be in there with me while I work, so I'll have a computer with audible speakers again.
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So has anyone else watched it yet?

I thought the production values were great. The scenery, lighting, costume/make-up, music etc were all wonderful and completely captured the spirit of PJ's films. There is a quietness, a sense of atmosphere, allowing characters to take their time, which feels very much in keeping with the Tolkien story feel. It's not action packed but more atmosphere oriented. The only thing I wasn't sold on was the script/storyline. Some slips in the detail/timeline means that sadly the Hunt4Gollum won't flow seamlessly into FotR:

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Aragorn meets Gandalf in 'Prancing Pony', and is told that Gollum must be found because Bilbo has told him his name and where he lives and he must be caught before Sauron gets hold of that info. Then comes the travelogue style search with majestic shots of M-e - can't fault that at all. Aragorn meets another Ranger in the wild whom he doesn't know but after hearing the password and family background of said ranger, accepts him, and introduces himself as "Strider", (thought only the Bree-folk called Aagorn that?) and goes on to tell him that he's looking for a creature matching Gollum's description. this allows said Ranger to dispense the lines about "rumours of a nameless fear" in Ithilien and Mirkwood.

Shortly afterwards Aragorn tracks Gollum down and captures him, very neatly done, by laying a trail of fish guts, and dropping a sack over him. it transpires from Gollum's mutterings in the sack that he has already been to Mordor and Aragorn is too late. We are meant to believe that Gollum is carried in this sack for days, if not weeks until an ambush by orcs. Aragorn receives a poisoned wound and we have the obligatory scene in his delirium of Arwen declaring her love for him back at Rivendell, and somehow healing him across the miles. When Aragorn awakens from his fever, Gollum has escaped the sack. Aragorn tracks him in the dark to the foot of a tree in which Gollum is hiding.

Before he can coax him down, Aragorn is attacked by a Black Rider!!?? He drives away the Nazgûl and then has a surprise tap on the shoulder from none other than Legolas who tells him "we have your creature!" Cut to scene of Gollum in Thranduil's dungeons, as Gandalf exits from his interrogation and tells Aragorn definitively that from piecing together Gollum's backstory it all makes sense, Frodo has the Ruling Ring and the Shire must be protected.

Apart from that, a great effort from all involved; it is wonderful to have another piece of Middle-earth brought to life, even if only to be argued over ;)

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Elentári, you might want to say "slight spoiler alert" at the top of your post. :P

I enjoyed it. Watched it twice.

Too many orcs and squishy noises (during fight scenes) but I had that problem with PJ as well.

The music was a well done pastiche of Howard Shore and Clint Mansell.

It was nice to be in that world again.
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I watched it. I'm sorry to say that I found it extremely distasteful. It seemed like a cheesy take-off on Jackson's films, with only the most superficial connection to anything that Tolkien wrote. And at least one thing that directly contradicted Tolkien in quite an important way.
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I thought that Arwen was lovely. I'm not joking - she looks like Arwen ought to look and I never thought Liv Tyler did.

I didn't find the trailers cheesy or distasteful, just sort of over-the-top, but impressive, considering everything. Impressed me with how far a fan could go.
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You and I have such different perceptions about so many things, my dear vison.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:You and I have such different perceptions about so many things, my dear vison.
Well, since I churned out reams and reams of fanfic myself, I tend to give other fans a break. Some of what I wrote was not dreadful, but it was nothing whatsoever like anything JRRT wrote!

The little movie is reverent, really, not necessarily "reverent" to PJ, but to the movie-making fan's LOTR. Without PJ's movie, this auteur would have pretty slim pickings, admittedly!! :D

As for the Arwen thing, I truly never thought Liv Tyler was suitable and the glimpse of the Arwen in this homemade movie had more life in it than Liv had through 3 very long movies.

This one may pall very quickly, but it's fun to walk in ME even if it's just for a few minutes.
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Whereas I felt that Liv very much has the kind of otherworldly beauty that characterizes Arwen, whereas the young woman in this "film" decidedly did not.

I thought some of the things that were straight out of the Jackson films were downright silly. But the thing that bothered me the most:



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... was "Gandalf" saying that Gollum's wretchedness was beyond their power to heal. That contradicts what Gandalf actually says in the book, that there is not much hope for his cure, but there is still some. And, of course, that small hope of Gollum's cure becomes of critical importance to the story. The fact that these filmmakers blithely contradict that (for no good reason that I can see) shows a real disregard for Tolkien's work.
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Sorta like Frodo sending Sam away? That sort of thing? Like Arwen breaking her vow to Aragorn and actually trying to leave Middle Earth, that sort of thing? :D
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Well, like that in a way, except that those things at least had some sort of a reason, misguided as they may have been.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:Well, like that in a way, except that those things at least had some sort of a reason, misguided as they may have been.
Ah, how true. :D

Well, the little fanmade movie doesn't trouble me very much. We all have our ideas of how things should have been and this guy actually went out and did it. Kudos to him, I think.

I've long thought that we (or at least, you) will live long enough to see such fanmade movies pouring out of every computer in the land. The computer world changes so fast that it seems to me anything is possible.

As has been mentioned above, some fanfic is very good and most is utter dreck. But everyone who writes/wrote fanfic did so because they love Middle Earth.
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It's very good, this fan tribute. :)

Watched it tonight.
vison wrote:As for the Arwen thing, I truly never thought Liv Tyler was suitable and the glimpse of the Arwen in this homemade movie had more life in it than Liv had through 3 very long movies.
Goodness, no way. :D

Liv is not my 'ideal' Arwen by any means, even in the looks department (although she spoke Elvish beautifully :) ) but neither is this lass in The Hunt for Gollum ... attractive as she is and as nicely done as that sequence is. :)
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Post by Voronwë the Faithful »

Amazing how tastes differ. I didn't think she was attractive at all, and I thought the sequence with her was terrible. A cheap take-off on the Jackson Aragorn/Arwen scenes with no relevance to the film and no real connection to what Tolkien wrote.
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I haven't watched it yet, but I am curious as to why the Tolkien Estate or New Line can't/won't act on this.
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