Hobbit Movie Formats Confirmed: 1 Hobbit - 2 Films

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Hobbit Movie Formats Confirmed: 1 Hobbit - 2 Films

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From www.empireonline.com: And the world exclusives from our 20th birthday issue – guest-edited by Steven Spielberg – continue to pile up… We’ve known for a while that Peter Jackson and Guillermo Del Toro’s eagerly-awaited adaptation of the Lord Of The Rings prequel, The Hobbit, would comprise two movies, due in December 2011 and 2012. But the make-up of those two movies has been up for debate… until now. We spoke exclusively to both Del Toro and Jackson for our birthday issue, and they told us the latest, which is…

“We’ve decided to have The Hobbit span the two movies, including the White Council and the comings and goings of Gandalf to Dol Guldur,” says Del Toro.

“We decided it would be a mistake to try to cram everything into one movie,” adds Jackson. “The essential brief was to do The Hobbit, and it allows us to make The Hobbit in a little more style, if you like, of the [LOTR] trilogy.”

So there you go. The second film will not, as had previously been suggested, a film that will bridge the 60-year gap between The Hobbit and the start of Fellowship Of The Ring.

For much more from Jackson and Del Toro on their plans for the return to Middle-earth, pick up the 20th birthday issue of Empire, on sale next Thursday (23rd April)


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Thanks, Elen! I'll be curious to see how they manage this.

And it does sound as if they're going to include some things from the Appendixes, which makes me happy (assuming it's done well). Those events may not be organic to the Hobbit as written, but they will help weave the five films together as one story.
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I think they've made a sensible decision, in all honesty. They can use the meatier stuff from the Appendices for DG & the White Council. :thumbsup:
Anything more would have meant too much supposition/invention.
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Another thought occurs to me - Hopefully this means that they have already approached Cate & Christopher regarding them filming the White Council scenes... :happydance:
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I hope we do start hearing casting information soon. I'm dying to know who will play Bilbo.
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Great news, though it had already largely been stated. I wonder where they will break the story.

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Thank you Ellen. I have mixed feelings. Doing HOBBIT over two films means it can really be given lots of time to do each scene right. So that is good. However, the idea of filling in the intervening 60 years had its appeal also since we could see things that we will not see now (or ever).

But the inclusion of the White Council and Dol Guldur is a big plus so I guess overall its good news.
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Details are so sketchy, anyway, that we don't really know what else might be included. I wonder if they've even figured it out yet. Does anyone know when the script was supposed to be finished?
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sauronsfinger wrote:Thank you Ellen. I have mixed feelings. Doing HOBBIT over two films means it can really be given lots of time to do each scene right. So that is good. However, the idea of filling in the intervening 60 years had its appeal also since we could see things that we will not see now (or ever).
You know, they could still do a "bridge" movie or heck, a trilogy, with Aragorn as the central character, based on the Appendices.
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Frelga wrote:
sauronsfinger wrote:Thank you Ellen. I have mixed feelings. Doing HOBBIT over two films means it can really be given lots of time to do each scene right. So that is good. However, the idea of filling in the intervening 60 years had its appeal also since we could see things that we will not see now (or ever).
You know, they could still do a "bridge" movie or heck, a trilogy, with Aragorn as the central character, based on the Appendices.
Well, if they do I hope they ditch Viggo Mortenson and get an actor who fits the part.
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As long as they get Sean Bean for younger Denethor. :P
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vison, Viggo did a wonderful job playing Aragorn, the filmmaker's Aragorn. If you have a beef, it is with them, not with him.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:vison, Viggo did a wonderful job playing Aragorn, the filmmaker's Aragorn. If you have a beef, it is with them, not with him.
We aren't going to agree. :( I thought he was wrong for the part and I still do. I felt the same way about Sean Bean, only more so, but thank goodness Boromir wasn't the "true hero" of the tale. :D

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Daniel Day Lewis would have been excellent for YOUR Aragorn; not so much so for PJ and Friends.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful wrote:Daniel Day Lewis would have been excellent for YOUR Aragorn; not so much so for PJ and Friends.
How very true.

But if he had played Aragorn in the movie, we would all think he was fabulous. :D

Except for those poor souls who don't like Daniel Day Lewis. I understand there's a tape you can buy that will fix that if you listen to it often enough. 8)
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I don't need that tape. I remember when his name came up in the rumors and I thought it was a great idea.

I think Viggo did fine work and I like his performance, overall. But I don't think he has the voice for some of the more imposing speeches he was given. He can sound kind of nasal.

It would probably bother me more if Aragorn were more important to my LotR. :P
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So, to get back to the meat in the news release:
We’ve decided to have The Hobbit span the two movies, including the White Council and the comings and goings of Gandalf to Dol Guldur,” says Del Toro
This certainly (hopefully) narrows dow the list of characters we can expect to see returning:

Bilbo, Elrond, Gollum, Gandalf, Galadriel, Saruman, Celeborn?

Still a possibility of a Legolas cameo in the Elvenking's Halls :neutral:

A couple of Nazgûl at DG? :scarey:

If they feature the chance meeting of Gandalf & Thorin at Bree, then we could see Butterbur again! ;)
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Lets hope Christopher Lee can be in those White Council scenes. If for any reason he cannot do it, I do think that Daniel Day Lewis in lots of make-up could do a bang up job as Saruman.
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I think GDT will want to use CL, health permitting, even if it means filming against green scene in London.

Hell, they should be filming it right now, just to make sure!! :pullhair:
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