The Pirated LOTR

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The Pirated LOTR

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Y'know, Ace is the company that "pirated" LotR back in the '60s. (They took advantage of a loophole in copyright law to put out a paperback edition for which they paid no royalties to Tolkien.)


(Yes, this should be split off)


There was no loophole. Mythology notwithstanding, Ace found a 'loophole' which existed only in Wollheim's mind. Although Ace of course eventually settled out of court (an abject surrender, really), others revived its claimed 'loophole' in the 90's and were firmly smacked down by the courts.

Think also, Tolkienistas- how much of The Silmarillion was unwritten because JRRT spent two years dealing with this mess and the consequent revision of his published works?
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Your wish is my command, solicitr. That a really interesting thought that I had considered before. It's hard to speculate how much of The Silmarillion remained unwritten because of this diversion. Who knows, maybe if Tolkien had had more time he would delved further into the revisions described in the Myths Transformed section of Morgoth's Ring, and really screwed things up. :P Nonetheless, it would be of little surprise to those that have followed my work on Arda Reconstructed that I dearly wish that Tolkien had been able to complete The Silmarillion himself, as I have major issues with some of the decisions that Christopher made in preparing it for publication.

Can you speak more about these other efforts to reived the so-called loophole in the 90s? I'd certainly be interested in hearing more about it.
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Eisen, Durwood & Co. v. Christopher R. Tolkien et al., 794 F. Supp. 85, 23 U.S.P.Q.2d 1150 (S.D.N.Y. 1992), affirmed without opinion, 990 F.2d 623 (2nd Cir. 1993)

Just off the top of my head, of course. ;)

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Couldn't have said it better myself, Primmie ;)

For any readers who aren't licensed as Spawn of Satan by their state Bars, you can find a good layman's summary of the case in Hammond & Scull's Reader's Guide, under "Ace Books Affair."
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