LOTR Voted 'Best Movie Adaptation'

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Crucifer, it was cinematic, and consciously so. (1) I hoped to make it vivid and entertaining and (2) I would have to be an idiot not to hope someone might option the film rights. A very slim hope, of course, but always worth trying for.
I would, if I was a director. I'd love to make this film!

And it would have to be rated 18 at the least! :shock:
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:scratch: I don't see it, but my standards have probably been sadly crumbled by the corruption inherent in being given money by a corporate media outlet in exchange for creating popular entertainment to lull the masses into mindless— <checks script> mindless slumber.

And to think I used to teach Sunday School.
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To come back from Osgilliath, I think HPatOotP should be on that list.
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I could agree with that, I think, although it was more a matter of eliminating a lot of padding to make the story adaptable.

My teenage daughter and her friends all seem to feel that too much was cut.
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Primula Baggins wrote:I could agree with that, I think, although it was more a matter of eliminating a lot of padding to make the story adaptable.

My teenage daughter and her friends all seem to feel that too much was cut.
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Well, you have to understand that these kids sat through FotR at age 8. They've been, er, hardened. :D
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But The Order of the Phoenix was not really an adaptation, just a condensation, of the book, if I am remembering the book correctly. An adaptation, in my mind, makes deliberate changes to the story so that it is a theatrical production, with character arcs, denouments, linearity, and brevity, and such, and no longer a literary piece. In general, a movie banks on the proverb "a picture is worth a thousand words" by cutting out thousands of words and hoping you don't notice the loss. There are, of course, exceptions to the rule, like My Dinner with Andre.

So condensation might eliminate characters (like the female house elf - can't recall her name - from the previous HP movie) or eliminate subplots and chunks of story (like Jurassic Park, Pride and Prejudice, Gone with the Wind, and Red October) or update the era slightly (the most recent Casino Royale) or use voice over to summarize material, whereas an adaptation might put the story in a different culture (like Bride and Prejudice), or merge two characters into one, or place the central story inside a dream (as Prim mentioned about Oz) or make up new stuff, in an attempt to make a better movie (not that I in any way agree with elves at Helm's Deep :rage:, but that's a different kettle of lutefisk), or completely change the story, like Adaptation.

I'd be tempted add West Side Story, a brilliant adaptation of Romeo and Juliet, but it is an adaptation of a play, not a book.
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And none of the changes were necessary to suit the play to film.
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
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