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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:56 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:04 pm 
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Yeah, I think its from The Hobbit, regarding Gandalf healing the Lord of the Eagles.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:36 pm 
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Nope, not from the Hobbit, not involving Gandalf.

I should clarify my previous answer to say that it only peripherally involves the Eagles (and one Eagle in particular). Where it says "all birds" it really does mean "all birds".

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:46 pm 
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So is "all birds" a phrase present in the original?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:26 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:27 pm 
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Is it in the Sil?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:13 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:29 pm 
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Is another hint necessary?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:33 pm 
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I think so.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:54 pm 
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The person being spoken to was not physically present, but still 'responded'.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:11 pm 
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The first thing that comes to mind is Beren's conversation with the ghost of Gorlim. Am I on the right track?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:21 pm 
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No. Remember the birds. And the Eagle.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:40 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:59 pm 
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My Silmarillion is rusty. If nobody else has any guesses, you may have to give another hint.

It's been high up on my "to re-read" list for ages, but I already have a huge pile of books on my bedside table to get through first.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:11 pm 
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A note for the Kindle owners who also have Amazon Prime - you can download the Sil for free, and it's a LOT more readable in that format. Even if I suspect Tolkien would have been horrified by that statement.

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‘No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.’
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:21 pm 
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Hmmm? I'm Prime member, and it tells me it is $9.99 for the Kindle version.

As for another hint, the quote is a prayer of sorts, which is answered.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:19 pm 
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Was it spoken to Illuvatar?

Edit: another one for our magic word filter - the "u" needs an acute accent.

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Actually, you added an extra "l". It is Ilúvatar.

As for your question, no, but arguably the next best thing.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:39 pm 
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Spoken to Manwë?

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Yup!

ETA: But as I said earlier, he was not physically present at the place where it was spoken but he still "responded'.

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