The Tolkien Translation Game!
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That is correct, Voronwë!
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I have a lot of things to do this morning.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Me, while checking the boards?
Or, just to rule it out, Bilbo?
Or, just to rule it out, Bilbo?
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Bilbo is involved, yes.
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"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Is it Gandalf?
What a lot of things you do use Good morning for!
What a lot of things you do use Good morning for!
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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Yup! That's it. Well done. Your turn.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Frelga wrote:Me, while checking the boards?
I do love your sense of humor, Frelga. 
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Aw, Inanna. 
OK, this quote mutated very oddly.
Those that deny the Day of Judgment
Let me say right from the start that no words related to days or judgment appear in the original.
OK, this quote mutated very oddly.
Those that deny the Day of Judgment
Let me say right from the start that no words related to days or judgment appear in the original.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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Is the word "deny" in the original, or some variation on the word?
Also, is it related to Isengard?
Also, is it related to Isengard?
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No and no
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Is the original a complete sentence, or a fragment like in the translation?
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The original is a complete sentence, somewhat longer than the translation. It's a fairly well known quote.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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So if no variations of deny, day, or judgment appear in the original quote than we're left with "Those that the of". 
Does the quote mention fate, destiny, or something similar that might have turned into "Day of Judgment" during the translation?
Does the quote mention fate, destiny, or something similar that might have turned into "Day of Judgment" during the translation?
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Is it Boromir talking about the ring?
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Inanna, no, it's later.
Eldo, yeah, that's pretty much what's left. "Of" isn't in the original, either. Nor is any word related to destiny, although oddly enough yes a word for what might precede Judgment.
Like I said, this is not an obscure quote.
Eldo, yeah, that's pretty much what's left. "Of" isn't in the original, either. Nor is any word related to destiny, although oddly enough yes a word for what might precede Judgment.
Like I said, this is not an obscure quote.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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What might precede Judgment...
sin? death?
ETA: is this the famous Gandalf talking to Frodo quote? About Bilbo killing/not killing Gollum?
sin? death?
ETA: is this the famous Gandalf talking to Frodo quote? About Bilbo killing/not killing Gollum?
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Yeah, one of those.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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This one: (?)
Then not be too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety.
Then not be too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety.
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Ooh, good one, but no. The original does have a death-related word, and the words that Eldo pointed out are left over.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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Oh, I just realized your weren't answering my ETA in the post above.
Related to Green Bubbles Men?
Related to Green Bubbles Men?
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