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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:10 am 
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I am very, very excited about this.


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It definitely looks like they did a great job. I'm excited, too, because it's a brilliant story. It's written kind of dryly and not very visually, and that the story is still so gripping says a lot for it. From the trailer, the character and the story seem intact, which is vital. This movie has the potential to fill in precisely what was missing for me: strong visuals and emotion.

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:06 pm 
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I have a hunch this movie will flop, both with critics and movie goers. Some of Matt Damon's lines from the trailer are truly atrocious ("In your face, Neil Armstrong!";"...science the shit out of this."). Who talks/writes like that besides bad pop-science writers on the Internet? I might be mistaken however and this film could still turn out to be good. The premise is full of potential and it is Ridley Scott, after all.

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
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The character is an out-and-out geek, not a strong silent hero, so the lines fit, in my view. The book and (from what I can see) the movie depend entirely on the fact that the character describes everything that happens to him verbally—the book, at least the part set on Mars, is largely a transcribed set of recordings, and we see him making recordings in the trailer. And his self-narration does include some geekiness and some goofy humor—because it's the character in his own words. And I remember a couple of points in the book where it's very clear that the lightness is helping him stay sane and hold off the fear.

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:25 am 
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Well, I just bought the book on Amazon...they had it on special for Kindle for $1.99. I'd like to read it before I see the movie and it sounds like a great read for a long plane ride.


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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:17 am 
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I hope you enjoy it, Jewel!

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:34 am 
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I bought the ebook a week ago, at full price. Ah well.

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:13 am 
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I bought the ebook a couple of years ago, Impy, and also at full price! And then tore through it in record speed. It's not fancy wordsmithery or anything, but it sure does hold a person's attention (and make that person hold her breath). :D

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
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One can tell a lot about a person's tastes by their reaction to The Martian. A number of people I know elsewhere thought it was slow, or couldn't get into the details, or otherwise failed to connect with it. It seems to be a litmus test for action-oriented vs. science-oriented SF readers.

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I might put it as action-oriented versus ideas-oriented. The Martian is an example of how a book can be oriented toward ideas and still tell a gripping story. :P

I'm using "ideas" in the sense of "cool concepts and speculation and imagination" rather than "profound exploration of what it means to be human."

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
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Wait, doesn't "cool concepts and speculation and imagination" mean "science?" ;)

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A subset, I'd say, but you have a point. :D

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
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It appears my hunch was wrong: 33/34 positive reviews so far.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_martian/

Personally, I still have my doubts about whether I will see it or not.


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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:02 pm 
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I'm more excited about this one than I was for The Hobbit.

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
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Metacritic is, as usual, a bit more cautious with a current good-not-great 76 based on 11 reviews.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-mar ... ic-reviews

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
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I'm ready! Bring on this Mars, I say!

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:55 pm 
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Impenitent wrote:
I'm more excited about this one than I was for The Hobbit.

*runs from thread, ducking the rotten tomatoes*

* Runs with Impish *

From what I've seen so far, my only complaint about this movie is that Sebastian Stan is not in the main role.

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:09 am 
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This is about the book (The Martian, not The Hobbit) - we don't have a discussion thread for it and it's not worth starting one for my intended comment. I want to say...
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...I just got to Project Elrond, and I'm smiling all over my face. Also giggling. :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
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Neil deGrasse Tyson twitted this: "Evidence that the @MartianMovie is fantasy: All who make important decisions are scientifically literate."

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‘There’s no greys, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.’
‘It’s a lot more complicated than that -’
‘No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.’
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 Post subject: Re: The Martian
PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:20 am 
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Totally. :D

I hope to see this soon. My son will be seeing it tomorrow while I'm busy elsewhere.

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