The new Star Trek film

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No. That's the Enterprise.
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Primula Baggins wrote:The Internet being, after all, a series of tubes.
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:rotfl:

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I think "I plead the Third!" is going to be my new motto. :rotfl:
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What, you don't like housing foreign troops? Communist.
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:rofl: I needed that!
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:rofl:

Al Gore was the natural choice after all.
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I watched the DVD twice this weekend. :D

I really love this film. :love:
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I do, too. I know not every longtime Star Trek fan feels this way, but for me it's revived my love for the whole Star Trek universe. It was getting so drab and closed-in, and now it's wide open and fun again. I can't wait for more movies. I know I'll be at the next one the day it opens if I possibly can, just as I was for the LotR films.

One thing I never have loved about the ST universe was the "reset button," which too many of the shows used too often. I never guessed that what would renew the whole thing for me was the biggest reset button ever. :P
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So I just watched it and it was sorta fun. Plot holes galore, really huge ginormous plot holes and illogical silly jumps in . . . logic . . . but fun. Sorta.

No. I guess I didn't like it, except for the young Spock. The rest were just generic cuties.
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vison, that was largely my reaction too! It's nice to agree with you about one of these things!
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You didn't like Karl Urban's McCoy? I'm really surprised.
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I did. I was pretty amazed at the job that he did at capturing the character. And I wouldn't go as far as vison to say that I didn't like it. But overall I thought it was sorta fun but nothing that special, and the plotholes and the convenient way that the cast of characters were brought together I found quite unimpressive. It certainly didn't move me the way the original series did when I was young, or even the way The Wrath of Khan did. And I really didn't like the actor that played Kirk at all (and I was always more of fan of Kirk's than of Spock).
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I don't know, I found Chekov rather endearing. Except for the accent. Have I ranted about Chekov's accent here yet? :whistle:

On the other hand, his use of a nice little Russian expletive made my movie.
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I don't know how authentic his accent was (in the extras he speaks unaccented American English), but at least the kid actually speaks Russian at home with his parents. (He was 18 when it was filmed.)

And, in the extras, he commented wryly on some of the "fake" aspects of the accent as sort of a tribute to the original Chekov's performance (Walter Koenig spoke no Russian and got his idea of the accent from 1960s American spy movies). So it might have sounded more authentic if he hadn't had to do that.
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Yeah, original Chekov's fake accent was even more painful. :blackeye: The new kid clearly was a Russian-speaker, but his accent was that of someone who learned English from the books and never actually heard it spoken. I kan tok like zet but it meiks my eerrs bleed. And he supposedly went tbrough the academy.

I readily admit that this is a minor issue. If you are not the one with bleeding ears. ;)
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You have every right to the bleeding ears. I'm sure it's much easier not to know what's right, especially for Russian accents (how do you handle James Bond movies? Or Cold War submarine thrillers, yiiii?).

The original Star Trek was a product of the Cold War, too, now that I think about it. Chekov was one of Gene Roddenberry's icons of hope: look, there's a Russian on the Enterprise! We all survived the Cold War and we're friends now! Kum ba yah. . . .

And, he looks just like one of the Monkees (or they tried anyway), bringing in that all-important adolescent girl demographic. (Here they missed something; we were all already on board the Enterprise, gazing longingly at Spock.)

Though, really, other TV shows of the time didn't even try.
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Submarine thrillers? Oh, the Red October was one of the funniest movies ever. :D

I am sure I have said this before, but StarTrek verse is exactly what they had told us in school Communism would be like.

And a very fun show. :)
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Now I'm laffing. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Lord_M and I were trying to figure out who Karl Urban played. :rofl: He didn't look much like Éomer!!!!

He was good really. I commented while watching that McCoy was good - forgot that in my post above.

I would have enjoyed it more had I seen it in a theatre, I'm sure.

But parts of it really did put me in mind of Galaxy Quest, especially the scenes of Scotty in the water pipes!
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