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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:16 am 
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@Frelga: entsprungen literally means "has sprung up" or better "arisen". The whole title of the Carol literally translates as "a rose has sprung up" (I realize, of course that your comment was meant as a joke ^^. Curiously, I think the Ents would have liked or at least been puzzled by one aspect of modern German: compound words. See this English Wikipedia entry for more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donaudamp ... sellschaft)


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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:31 pm 
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It's ironic that an atheist is the most regular contributor to this thread :P

Listen to this - it's gorgeous:


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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:29 pm 
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Some of the greatest music ever written grew out of religious faith.

I remember years ago reading a dismissive New Yorker review of an oratorio that began by saying something like how odd it was that such music was still being performed now that we have all become too sophisticated for those old stories to have any meaning.

If he couldn’t hear the music through his thick coating of sophistication, it was his loss. I knew plenty of atheist musicians back in the day who could hear it just fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:46 pm 
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Do you remember what the oratorio was?

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:26 pm 
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I don’t, alas. I remember I’d heard of it, but wasn’t familiar with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
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It is gorgeous, Jude. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:55 pm 
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Before there was Queen, there was... The Deller Consort!


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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:17 pm 
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Jude wrote:
It's ironic that an atheist is the most regular contributor to this thread :P


Perhaps, I confess in a way I miss the music. Yes, I can still listen to it, yes it still stirs all those emotions it did before, but sometimes I feel a little... not guilty exactly... hypocritical? Not sure exactly what the word is, but it's like I shouldn't still enjoy it but I do. I even sing it in the car sometimes just cause as you said, it really is just beautiful music sometimes!

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:57 pm 
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You're not taking a philosophical position because you enjoy the music, elengil. It would be a sad thing if you couldn't get pleasure from a large body of beautiful music simply because your beliefs have evolved since you first started listening to it. Music belongs to everyone and should be enjoyed freely, that's what I say. I've been powerfully moved by music I happened to hear whose context and language I knew nothing about. It's a deeper connection than the mind, and therefore a good thing—something that has the potential to bind people together without reference to religion or politics or cultural beliefs.

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:50 am 
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On a rational level I totally agree. And it's funny because I can listen to religious music from other faiths and simply appreciate the beauty of the music. It just seems odd when I listen to Christian music. Still, I won't stop listening to the music I enjoy.




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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:38 am 
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It's too late at night right now, but I'm going to come back to this thread tomorrow and listen to all these, now that my ears work.

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Music
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:43 am 
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Love those, Elengil!

This is maybe my most-loved Christmas carol:



English medieval music - I was brought up on this stuff :love:

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