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by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 30, 2024 9:58 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

Even if it makes no iota of difference to the election, even if it ends up helping Trump, I find that I would feel extremely gratified to learn that Trump was held accountable for his despicable conduct.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 30, 2024 9:53 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

After stating they were going leave early at 4:30 today, all of a sudden there is news that there is a verdict after all. That seems like good news to me. It seems very unlikely that they would have reached an acquittal this quickly.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 30, 2024 7:51 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: The (no longer) much too early 2024 election thread
Replies: 1247
Views: 151062

Re: The (no longer) much too early 2024 election thread

This is so insane that I don't even have words to describe it. No matter how much you disagree with Biden's handling of the war in Gaza, there is no objective basis to not conclude that Trump is exponentially worse on that issue and on every other issue important to Arab-Americans. https://twitter.c...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 30, 2024 6:58 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

More on the issue of not giving a written copy of the jury instructions to the jury.

by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 30, 2024 4:25 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

It's hard to say. This early in the deliberations, it is just as likely that the panel as a whole is trying to clarify the facts. Most commentators who have more criminal trial experience than I do seem to think that the requests are a bad sign -- for Trump.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 30, 2024 2:44 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

We have an answer to what jury instructions the jury is looking for.

by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 30, 2024 2:33 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: The (no longer) much too early 2024 election thread
Replies: 1247
Views: 151062

Re: The (no longer) much too early 2024 election thread



Unless and until the actual tape comes out, this is a non-story (and it might be a non-story even if the tape does come out, ridiculous though that might be).
by Voronwë the Faithful
Thu May 30, 2024 2:30 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

What's the logic behind the New York law that forbids the jury from having the judge's instructions to them in writing? Here is some discussion about this questions (which makes little sense to me. https://twitter.com/alegalnerd/status/1795968245134217713 While it is true that the jury's province i...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Wed May 29, 2024 9:24 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

The jury sent another note asking to have the instructions read back to them again (since they don't have a copy). The judge has asked them to clarify whether they want all of them read, or just some of them, but apparently has sent them home for the day because the parties are still trying to agree...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Wed May 29, 2024 9:19 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted for Conspiring to Overturn the 2020 Election
Replies: 358
Views: 92674

Re: Trump Indicted for Conspiring to Overturn the 2020 Election

Though par for the course for this particular defendant.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Wed May 29, 2024 8:38 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

I saw that too. While some of the reports of him sleeping I think were over-emphasized, this was a very bad time for it to happen as it could leave a lasting impression on the jury.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Wed May 29, 2024 8:15 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

We have our first jury note.

by Voronwë the Faithful
Wed May 29, 2024 7:17 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

What's the logic behind the New York law that forbids the jury from having the judge's instructions to them in writing? Here are the jury instructions that the jury doesn't get to see (but we do). https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People%20v.%20DJT%20Jury%20Instructions%20and%20Charges...
by Voronwë the Faithful
Wed May 29, 2024 2:50 pm
Forum: The Rings of Power
Topic: The all too early Season Two thread (possible spoilers)
Replies: 125
Views: 51156

Re: The all too early Season Two thread (possible spoilers)

To my surprise, I am actually looking forward to that.
by Voronwë the Faithful
Wed May 29, 2024 2:23 pm
Forum: Lasto Beth Lammen
Topic: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney
Replies: 418
Views: 47917

Re: Trump Indicted by Manhattan District Attorney

This was a great line in rebutting the defense claim that the payments really were for legal services.